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re: NBA Playoff First Round Predictions
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:35 am to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:35 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:You could just answer it, don't be scared of hypotheticals.
We could back and forth all day on that BS question
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:35 am to Boomshockalocka
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what #s is that
Points rebounds assists.....last years playoffs
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:38 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:Lebron got to play v the East for 3 series come on bro
Points rebounds assists.....last years playoffs
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:38 am to shel311
quote:You go from saying that LeBron and Wade are better offensive players than Harden and that Harden can't win a title. I said Harden is every bit as good as LeBron on offense. You say LeBron has 2 titles. I say yeah, but he had 0 titles until he teamed up with Wade and Bosh, and made the point that even you said Wade is a better offensive player than Harden, using your own words against you.
But your premise that the only difference between Harden and the guys I listed is team difference, that's a good one, not retarded at all. No clue why I bother sometimes, no clue.
And then you come back with "well yeah, but I was talking about 2006 Wade!! Not 2013 Wade!!". You keep moving the goal posts and didn't even acknowledge the fact that LeBron still didn't win until he teamed up with Wade and Bosh.
Oh, and 2006 Wade had Shaq.
Your whole premise was just idiotic, and when you couldn't support it, you change the perimeters.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:38 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:So he'd win more games with a much worse supporting cast? Boom logic!!! Win 1 game with the #2 seed HOU team, but he'd win 2 games with a completely broken CLE team.
6 games
Lebron with a broken team and shitty Dellavadova took more games from GS than the #2 seed HOU...
Why? Difference between Harden and Lebron in each series. Lebron ultimately didn't win because of his inefficiency but his ability to basically do everything is why he was able to take more games than Harden, who completely short circuited in 2 of the 5 games.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:40 am to Boomshockalocka
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Lebron got to play v the East for 3 series come on bro
His most impressive stats came against GSW so what's your point? Harden isn't on LeBron's offensive game level, at all.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:42 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Holy shite dude, Lebron didn't team up with 2006 Wade, good Lord. It's not that difficult to grasp.
You go from saying that LeBron and Wade are better offensive players than Harden and that Harden can't win a title. I said Harden is every bit as good as LeBron on offense. You say LeBron has 2 titles. I say yeah, but he had 0 titles until he teamed up with Wade and Bosh, and made the point that even you said Wade is a better offensive player than Harden, using your own words against you.
quote:They've literally never changed. I said compare Harden to guys like Lebron/Wade/Curry who led their teams to a title. Nothing about that changed, not even close.
You keep moving the goal posts
quote:Nothing changed. And just remember with your namecalling, you're also inferring that harden is as good as those 3 guys I just mentioned at their peaks...may want to dial it down while saying things like that and in the same post calling someone idiotic. Take a step back, realize the absurdity of those 2 things in the same post.
Your whole premise was just idiotic, and when you couldn't support it, you change the perimeters.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:43 am to PrimeTime Money
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No, your premise was so retarded that it wasn't even worth responding to with an actual reply.
Which is why I haven't...dude said that you had to either have a stud team like the Spurs (who had the best PF of all time in his prime for 3 of their championships) or you had to be a player like Curry who could put his team on his back, as if he doesn't have a great team that won 67 last year and the most wins in NBA history this year. Then he mentions Lebron as if he didn't team up with two top 10 players and Wade, who had Shaq - 20 and 10 Shaq. Let's also pretend that Dirk, who was not a "Lebron, Curry, Wade" player, didn't hand 2 of those guys an arse whipping in the Finals. Was he on a loaded team, too??
Yet he's dropping LOLs on the regular.
Shel is pretty knowledgeable for the most part, but he tries too hard to win these arguments that sometimes he puts himself in a corner and the only way for him to get out his by picking bits and pieces of posts and dropping emoticon bombs. He can be a pretentious douche at times, for sure.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:43 am to shel311
Just look at the numbers instead of cherry picking one series. Transitive property doesn't work in these situations genius.
quote:Funny, game score on bball ref has Harden at 23.06 for the serires and lebron at 24.50 ..Not much of a difference at all. he also had 2 games that were better than ANY lebron game v GSW. And yet Lebron is the one who has proven he can lead a team over GSW and not Harden.
Why? Difference between Harden and Lebron in each series. Lebron ultimately didn't win because of his inefficiency but his ability to basically do everything is why he was able to take more games than Harden, who completely short circuited in 2 of the 5 games.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:43 am to PrimeTime Money
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You keep moving the goal posts
quote:
Your whole premise was just idiotic, and when you couldn't support it, you change the perimeters.
Here's the quote of my take you took exception to:
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NOw think about the other teams...led by Lebron, Curry, Wade
Game.set.match
Good talks!!!
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:45 am to 13SaintTiger
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His most impressive stats came against GSW so what's your point? Harden isn't on LeBron's offensive game level, at all.
Harden had 2 games v GSW that were better than any game Lebron had against the same team..if you wanna go that route.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:45 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:Pretty sure I mentioned Dallas in my original premise, but nice try on the gotcha...so close!!!
Let's also pretend that Dirk, who was not a "Lebron, Curry, Wade" player, didn't hand 2 of those guys an arse whipping in the Finals. Was he on a loaded team, too??
quote:Well, if you think Harden is as good as last year's Curry, 2006 Wade, and Lebron the 2 years he won the title, then yes I've lost this argument.
Shel is pretty knowledgeable for the most part, but he tries too hard to win these arguments that sometimes he puts himself in a corner and the only way for him to get out his by picking bits and pieces of posts and dropping emoticon bombs
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:46 am to shel311
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Curry who led their teams to a title.
Curry's team won 67 games and he wasn't even the best player on his team in the finals last year
He was on a great team, that's why they won. Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:46 am to Boomshockalocka
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Harden had 2 games v GSW that were better than any game Lebron had against the same team..if you wanna go that route.
Harden had a 17% turnover rate compared to LeBron's 10% with better stats. CLEARLY you have no idea what the hell you are talking about
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:47 am to PortCityTiger24
But you guys are leaving out the playoff Dwight.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:47 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Did he also have the 2 worst scores?
Harden had 2 games v GSW that were better than any game Lebron had against the same team..if you wanna go that route.
You think inconsistent play is gonna beat GS?
HOU lost in 5 games, that series was over quick.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:48 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:LeBron's stats per 36 minutes vs. Golden State in the playoffs:
His most impressive stats came against GSW so what's your point? Harden isn't on LeBron's offensive game level, at all.
28.2 points, 6.9 assists, on 47.7% TS%
Harden's stats per 36 minutes vs. Golden State:
25.8 points, 5.8 assists, on 62.7% TS%
Harden was waaaaaaaaaaaaay more efficient on offense. LeBron averaged 2.4 more points because he was chucking shots like crazy (and missing).
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:49 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:If you don't realize what Curry does for that offense, even when he's not playing well, then that's on you.
Curry's team won 67 games and he wasn't even the best player on his team in the finals last year He was on a great team, that's why they won.
1 word...spacing.
But tell me more on how Harden is on Curry's level, which is basically what you're saying...and if you're not saying that, then show me the precedent for guys not quite on that all time level winning titles with this style of play in recent memory.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:50 am to 13SaintTiger
Game score includes turnover %. Harden had the 2 highest game scores. Not debatable.
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