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re: NCAA committee considering 7-figure fines, head coach suspensions for transfer violations
Posted on 2/25/26 at 8:49 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 2/25/26 at 8:49 pm to RLDSC FAN
Schools will never agree to pass this based on the coaching penalties(millions lost;grievances filed by schools and coaches trying to avoid payment/loss of payment due to being suspended half the season. Would also give any school with a coach punished by this an easy way around paying buyouts after firing said coach. Then you add in the $4-5 million lost due to the revenue share penalty. The scholarships dont matter. Most dont use the 105 anyway. This is grandstanding by the NCAA trying to levy power they have lost. A toothless organization showing off fake teeth.
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Posted on 2/25/26 at 8:51 pm to magildachunks
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The problem that some of y'all seem to have is that y'all think that there is an inherent right to employment.
There is not right to employment. But there also isn't a right for an employer to force an employee to stay and not accept another job elsewhere.
A school doesn't have to give a spot to any specific player. But they also can't legally force someone to stay and not accept employment elsewhere.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:26 pm to lsufanva
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This is grandstanding by the NCAA trying to levy power they have lost. A toothless organization showing off fake teeth.
They are only toothless because the member institutions and Conferences are too chicken shite to fulfill their roles in adhering to the conditions and rules they agreed would be arbitrated by the NCAA.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:30 pm to OleVaught14
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There is not right to employment. But there also isn't a right for an employer to force an employee to stay and not accept another job elsewhere.
Nobody is forcing anybody to stay, but they can't leave and go to another member of the same organization (NCAA).
Like a "No Compete" Clause.
They could go to a school outside of the NCAA, like JUCO or NAIA.
Same with the Schools. They don't have to be a member of the NCAA, but as long as they are they should be held accountable for following the rules and regulations and the rulings of the NCAA.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:34 pm to Buckeye06
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It's especially dumb because the teams still playing in the playoffs potentially lose players and can't bring in new ones as they are preparing for huge games.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. It’s horseshite that a team making a playoff appearance/run can still have their roster poached and players transfer out before the season is over.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:35 pm to magildachunks
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Nobody is forcing anybody to stay, but they can't leave and go to another member of the same organization (NCAA).
Like a "No Compete" Clause.
If every business in the same industry agresss to restrict the rights of employees you might find yourself with some antitrust issues right?
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:35 pm to magildachunks
quote:The only way to save the sport is to end association with the NCAA entirely and replace it with a governance entity appropriate for the sport
The only way to save the sport is for the Conferences to tell their members "No, you can't ignore the NCAA's rulings" and give their support to the NCAA
We’re 8 years into the portal and 5 years into NIL and the number of issues that have been there from the start is comical. The number of issues that have grown and have not been touched is even worse. It’s pathetic. They have neither the will nor the ability to effect change for the betterment of the sport
The future of major college football does not include the NCAA
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:36 pm to lsufanva
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lost;grievances filed by schools and coaches trying to avoid payment/loss of payment due to being suspended half the season.
What grounds would they possibly have to file a grievance?
The rules are known. If they break the rules, they are already aware of the consequences.
The only way they would have "loss of pay" is of their own fault.
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Would also give any school with a coach punished by this an easy way around paying buyouts after firing said coach.
Getting sanctioned and put on probation by the NCAA has always been an easy way for the school to avoid buyouts. Why would any school not agree to this?
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:36 pm to CovingtonTigre
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every business in the same industry agresss to restrict the rights of employees you might find yourself with some antitrust issues right?
Every business hasn't agreed.
There's JUCO or NAIA
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:42 pm to Buckeye06
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It's especially dumb because the teams still playing in the playoffs potentially lose players and can't bring in new ones as they are preparing for huge games.
The real solution is to end the playoffs at new years.
Regular season ends Thanksgiving weekend, playoffs in December.
January transfer portal.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:44 pm to RemouladeSawce
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The only way to save the sport is to end association with the NCAA entirely and replace it with a governance entity appropriate for the sport
We’re 8 years into the portal and 5 years into NIL and the number of issues that have been there from the start is comical. The number of issues that have grown and have not been touched is even worse. It’s pathetic
The future of college football does not include the NCAA
The problem isn't the NCAA, it's the Conferences and the schools.
What good would starting a new regulatory body accomplish if the same conferences and schools don't adhere to their rulings as well?
NCAA makes a decision on eligibility and if the school doesn't like the ruling, they get the courts involved and subvert the system with no consequences from the conference.
Disbanding one regulatory body to form another isn't going to solve anything. Chances are if you abolish the NCAA, you'll end up with multiple replacements causing more chaos
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:59 pm to magildachunks
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Every business hasn't agreed. There's JUCO or NAIA
I’m not going to pretend to be an expert on antitrust law but I’d be surprised to learn that you need to show 100% of all businesses acting in concert to trigger antitrust issues.
Whats the current # of D1 football programs? Over 100? If the 100 biggest employers of an industry agree to restrict movement of their labor force that probably should trigger some antitrust investigation.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:59 pm to magildachunks
I don’t know why the schools aren’t threatened with being ineligible for bowls or the college football playoff if they don’t follow the rules
That’s something the courts couldn’t touch
That’s something the courts couldn’t touch
Posted on 2/25/26 at 10:00 pm to CovingtonTigre
Antitrust for what?
The players aren’t employees. And there is no collective bargaining agreement
The players aren’t employees. And there is no collective bargaining agreement
Posted on 2/25/26 at 10:20 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
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The players aren’t employees
They are not currently classified as employees but based on most court decisions in the last decade, I don’t think that's an argument athletic programs or the NCAA want to make in court.
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there is no collective bargaining agreemen
CBA’s allow companies to avoid antitrust not vice-versa. The courts have held that NFL teams are competitive businesses. What allows the NFL to have a salary cap and rules on free agency, franchise tags, and the draft is the existing CBA.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 10:21 pm to magildachunks
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Like a "No Compete" Clause.
Which are largely illegal.
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They could go to a school outside of the NCAA, like JUCO or NAIA.
No where near the same. Both in terms of current earning potential but also future earnings.
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Same with the Schools. They don't have to be a member of the NCAA, but as long as they are they should be held accountable for following the rules and regulations and the rulings of the NCAA.
The NCAA is essentially a monopoly. There isn't another option for the kids or schools.
None of this gives a free pass for the NCAA to enforce illegal rules which the schools have very little say in. And the players have absolutely no say in.
Want to be able to enforce illegal rules - collective bargain or get anti-trust protection from Congress. Until either of those happen, the NCAA has no legal ability to enforce rules which violate a wide variety of laws (both federally and state).
Posted on 2/25/26 at 10:24 pm to magildachunks
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The rules are known. If they break the rules, they are already aware of the consequences.
If you move into a neighborhood with a HOA, you know you have to follow their rules. You even get to vote on board members to make rules. But guess what, even with that, HOA can't pass and enforce rules that violate the law. You knew the rules when you moved in, but if the rules are illegal they still are not enforceable.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 10:34 pm to CovingtonTigre
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The courts have held that NFL teams are competitive businesses. What allows the NFL to have a salary cap and rules on free agency, franchise tags, and the draft is the existing CBA.
The NFL is not a business, it's a "Trade Organization".
The NCAA is not a business, it's a regulatory body for Athletic Programs of colleges who voluntarily joined the Association and "agreed" to adhere to their rulings and regulations.
This has nothing to do with the players. It's about holding the Schools accountable.
Ole Miss doesn't have to be a part of the NCAA. But it's in their best interest to be a part of it. With that membership comes responsibilities and guidelines to be followed.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 10:34 pm to OleVaught14
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But guess what, even with that, HOA can't pass and enforce rules that violate the law. You knew the rules when you moved in, but if the rules are illegal they still are not enforceable.
What laws have been broken?
Posted on 2/25/26 at 10:37 pm to magildachunks
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Ole Miss doesn't have to be a part of the NCAA. But it's in their best interest to be a part of it.
There's no alternative, it's essentially a monopoly. Which federal courts have already ruled it is (which opened the door to all these lawsuits).
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With that membership comes responsibilities and guidelines to be followed.
Not if those rules violate the law - which they do.
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