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re: Robot umpires to be used in MLB All-Star game
Posted on 7/11/25 at 6:56 am to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 7/11/25 at 6:56 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Isn’t this defined in the rule book? The easy thing to do would be program the official strike zone for each player into the MLB and MiLB data base, calibrate all the robo umps on that database, and make sure it’s up to date.
"The strike zone is defined as the area over home plate between the midpoint of the batter's shoulders and the top of the uniform pants, down to the hollow beneath the kneecap, when the batter is in their natural stance. It's important to note that this is a three-dimensional space, and a pitch is a strike if any part of the ball in flight passes through any part of this zone. "
They claim they take a certain amount of stances as samples for each batter and combine to the aggregate - so the midpoint of the shoulders which of course varies from player to player depending on the size of their shoulders and hell the top of the uniform pants down to the hollow beneath the kneecap - yeah I'm sure that's calibrated just so to the nines correctly for every player and the computer correctly detects things like shoulder midpoints and kneecap hollows.
Of course batters change their stance all the time to where the samples used to calibrate are in constant flux - is the system constantly calibrated to take these into account? In looking into how the systems are calibrated it is stated that the system does not figure in a batters specific batting stance only a fixed percentage of height.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 6:59 am
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Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:17 am to Tiger Ugly
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is the system constantly calibrated to take these into account?
It’s not implemented yet, so no it’s not. But if they decide to pursue it, then it must be.
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Of course batters change their stance all the time to where the samples used to calibrate are in constant flux
To simplify the system each player in MLB and MiLB should have their own strike zone defined, based on the language you quoted, in terms of inches above the plate at the beginning of the season and that zone stays constant until the next season.
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In looking into how the systems are calibrated it is stated that the system does not figure in a batters specific batting stance only a fixed percentage of height.
I’d be in favor of this if the MLB clearly defines the bottom end and top end of strike zones based on a batters height. That’s not what the rule states currently, so that’s not how it should be done, but if the language was changed to account for it, this would make computerized strike zones much easier to implement and standardize.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:19 am to Dr RC
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One day we will all look back and realize MLB was the tip of the spear used by billionaires to get people to accept robots and AI stealing human jobs
For some jobs nobody gives a shite… Lawyer is one. Now we can add plate umpire to that list
Thanks Angel Hernandez
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:21 am to Tiger Ugly
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So, am I saying robot umps are no better than the human umps? No, not at all, just saying they are not 100% accurate and no matter how good the technology they never will be.
This is all you needed to say to show how robo umps will be better.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:23 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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I’d be in favor of this if the MLB clearly defines the bottom end and top end of strike zones based on a batters height. That’s not what the rule states currently, so that’s not how it should be done, but if the language was changed to account for it, this would make computerized strike zones much easier to implement and standardize.
We can drill into the minutia of it all day - as you see I could - but my main point is even if you can rationalize the above to your satisfaction on accuracy (I'm not there) the other things that are proven to have affects like light, wind, shadows, rain, reflections, vibrations, humidity ain't going away - it is not and never will be 100% accurate.
I had a guy tell me well, it's 99.5%. How given the above he could say that with any credibility is beyond me.
Again, am I saying human umps are better - absolutely not - I'm just saying Robots ain't perfect either.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:57 pm to TigerFanatic99
Imagining a strong behind home plate robot (is there any other kind?) tossing a belligerent coach out to around third base.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 5:09 pm to chalmetteowl
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For some jobs nobody gives a shite… Lawyer is one. Now we can add plate umpire to that list
AI consistently fails to get the most basic information correct on a simple google search. No fricking way in hell I'd ever want AI running a lawsuit for me.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 6:22 pm to hawgfaninc
not interested......at all.
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