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Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Is there much of a precedent for 2 top 15-20 players, 1 being fringe top 5, in their prime playing together healthy and finishing around .500?


No idea. There also isn't much precedent with the those two guys being bigs, especially considering the amount of garbage around them aside from Holliday who is just an average starting PG.

I just don't see it.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32206 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:43 pm to
quote:


No idea. There also isn't much precedent with the those two guys being bigs, especially considering the amount of garbage around them aside from Holliday who is just an average starting PG.

I just don't see it.


assuming teams like Utah (No hayward/hill) and LAC (No Griffin/Paul) take a step back, the "locks" are more than likely only GSW, SAS, HOU, OKC.

Which means 5-8 would be up for grabs. New Orleans, Dallas, Portland have an offseason to mesh together. Memphis may lose a few key guys as well and they played above their roster last year. Denver confuses me, but I think they make it. Minnesota should take the other spot as well. That leaves 2 spots for what seems like a race between NOLA, Dallas, Portland, Utah, and LAC
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14256 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:47 pm to
Portland will be better than all of those teams save for the top 3 in the West.

How quickly we forget an overweight Nurkic (this cannot be stressed enough, Denver attached a 1st round pick to him just to get rid of him) made this Blazers team a top player post ASB last year.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27973 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:49 pm to
Portland is a confusing team. Sometimes they are unexpectedly good, and sometimes they are unexpectedly bad.
Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
7641 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:50 pm to
I like Portland as a playoff team again next year. They were really hot post-Nurkic trade until he got hurt.

quote:

Couple notes from someone who would know: George Hill wants to stay in Utah. Spurs are his second choice, and Minnesota is lurking.

-- Ben Rohrbach, Yahoo
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
3454 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

George Hill wants to stay in Utah. Spurs are his second choice,


that would be interesting if Hill went back the Spurs and play with the guy they traded him for.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
129624 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:52 pm to
Maybe we should let the offseason start before we all start making blanket playoff predictions.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27973 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:52 pm to
By the way, y'all need to set your phones to get Twitter alerts from guys like Woj, Stein, Shams, etc.

It's always a fun time of year to have your phone constantly buzzing with free agency news.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32206 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Portland is a confusing team. Sometimes they are unexpectedly good, and sometimes they are unexpectedly bad.



this is why I leave them as questionable.

They played like shite, Nurkic comes, they go complete 180..

Confusing to say the least, I think they're closer to what NOLA-Dallas-UTAH-LAC are than Minnesota-Denver

Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14256 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:57 pm to
They def played above their level two years ago. Ed Davis was an elite defensive big man by the numbers that year

Last year what you saw was a team that couldn't defend the perimeter and had no one to alter shots around the hoop until Nurkic got here. I love our draft because we got the best shot blocker in the draft and another guy that is long with upside in Swanigan.


Also worth noting, Nurkic has declined playing for his country this summer, working on rehabbing from injury full time. Im so excited for this upcoming season. Tbh tho a lot of it hinges on Nurkic and his health.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116080 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

By the way, y'all need to set your phones to get Twitter alerts from guys like Woj, Stein, Shams, etc. It's always a fun time of year to have your phone constantly buzzing with free agency news.


It's great until you get 10 tweets at 3 am about something you already knew about or don't care about (like Hayward visiting the heat)

I made this mistake with schefty during NFL offseason and it got annoying real quick
Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
7641 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

As of now, the Warriors and Andre Iguodala have no meeting scheduled, sources say. Could change any minute. Sides are optimistic.

-- Lowe
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14256 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:59 pm to
What's so different about Denver now vs last season?

Portland outplayed them down the stretch. Now add Collins, a healthy Davis, Lillard not playing injury for a portion of the season (that's an underrated talking point) this team should be much better than Denver fwiw, again.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27973 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

It's great until you get 10 tweets at 3 am about something you already knew about or don't care about (like Hayward visiting the heat) I made this mistake with schefty during NFL offseason and it got annoying real quick
I keep my phone on vibrate so it doesn't bother me when I sleep.

And I only turn it on during the most active part of free agency. I turn it back off when the tweets start to get more annoying because the news starts dying down.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91546 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

By the way, y'all need to set your phones to get Twitter alerts from guys like Woj, Stein, Shams, etc. It's always a fun time of year to have your phone constantly buzzing with free agency news.

Also, Woj is making his ESPN debut tonight on SVP's show at 12 et
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:13 pm to
Denver has a franchise centerpiece. Portland has dropping dimes
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112765 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

I mean in today's NBA the standard honestly is something completely different for really good teams tbh

The standard to win a title is.

The standard to be better than .500 is not much different.
Posted by David Ricky
Hailing From Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2015
25906 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne General sense heading into free agency is teams are trying not to go nuts right out of the gates like last year. (???? at u Lakers/Mozgov)


quote:

Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne That's creating frustration amongst agents, because this year's FA class wants to be paid like last year's class.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103628 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:21 pm to
Well tough shite to the FAs then... With the cap being adjusted downward from expectations, teams aren't going to be drunken sailors this time around thinking "This will be a bargain in a few years."
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
129624 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:24 pm to
Every team realizes what a mistake last year was, and the cap has been adjusted down.

FAs better adjust their expectations.
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