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re: Updated - Early Signing Day Thread
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:28 pm to SmackDaniels
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:28 pm to SmackDaniels
They played 6 true freshman on offense at the same time in the National championship. Their 2017 class is already the best of all time.
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:32 am to dukke v
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SO????? When is the last Time LSU beat him???????
That has nothing to do with anything being discussed.
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If you have ANY problem thinking he is the greatest in this day and age of recruiting limits and STILL doing what he is doing shows me you don't know shite about the history of College football...
What a surprise, PJ completely misses the point because he is too dense to understand. All I said is he’s not the greatest X’s and O’s Coach of all time that doesn’t mean he isn’t the greatest overall coach of all time the 2 are not mutually exclusive I’m sorry that you don’t know what that means.
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Give it a rest know-it-all..............
Ironic coming from you. You are such a sad pathetic little person I feel sorry for you
Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:46 am to BhamDore
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There isn't any standardized test to gage X and O competency. I'm sure all the coaches who have coached decades are all great X and O coaches.
I completely agree but the contention was made Saban is the greatest X’s O’s coach of all time. What is that based on? Someone mentioned Meyer was better you said Meyer best Saban with better talent and Saban best Meyer with better talent. If he only wins with better talent, then I don’t see how the argument can be made he’s the best X’s and O’s coach. Obviously he’s outstanding at it and it’s kind of picking nits, but when I think of great X’s and O’s I think of innovators that changed the game. It’s most offensive coaches because defensive is reactionary. Bill Yeoman created the veer offense that changed the game at the time. Bill Walsh and the WCO. Someolike Mumme and his disciples. It’s not a knock on Saban, I realize you understand that unlike that dope PJ
Posted on 12/10/18 at 8:00 am to H-Town Tiger
What does it even mean to be the greatest X's and O's coach of all-time? Are we talking about someone who was innovative, someone who came up with a brand new offense/defense, or someone who coached his players to be in the right position on any given play?
If we're talking about someone like Bill Walsh, it must be said that his system worked because he had the talent to run it. Those 49ers teams of the mid to late 80s were oozing with talent on both the offensive and defensive side of the ball. The West Coast offense won't work if you have someone like Trent Dilfer throwing to some scrub from Western Carolina. The West Coast offense worked because you had Joe Montana throwing to Jerry Rice and Roger Craig.
The same thing can be said for teams at the collegiate level. The reason why great offensive minds like Steve Spurrier saw success in their primes is because they had the talent to run their systems. So I guess the questions one needs to answer is what exactly is an X's and O's coach and what standards are we using to judge the greatness of an X's and O's coach?
If we're talking about someone like Bill Walsh, it must be said that his system worked because he had the talent to run it. Those 49ers teams of the mid to late 80s were oozing with talent on both the offensive and defensive side of the ball. The West Coast offense won't work if you have someone like Trent Dilfer throwing to some scrub from Western Carolina. The West Coast offense worked because you had Joe Montana throwing to Jerry Rice and Roger Craig.
The same thing can be said for teams at the collegiate level. The reason why great offensive minds like Steve Spurrier saw success in their primes is because they had the talent to run their systems. So I guess the questions one needs to answer is what exactly is an X's and O's coach and what standards are we using to judge the greatness of an X's and O's coach?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 8:45 am to RollTide1987
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What does it even mean to be the greatest X's and O's coach of all-time? Are we talking about someone who was innovative, someone who came up with a brand new offense/defense
This is generally what I think of.
As for the point about Walsh and Spurrier’s systems only working because that had superior talent is false. They win at a high level and win multiple championships because of superior talent but the schemes work and work well with lesser talent. It’s usually because they have lesser talent that spurs coaches to innovate innovate in the first place. Spurrier ran the same offense at Duke, some WR named Clarkson Hines was #3 in 89 with 17TDs. The veer started at Houston in the 60s it was so successful Bryant installed it Alabama. Does Mike Leech have superior talent? Is his offense not successful?
I’ve always believed Jimmy’s and Joe’s are far more important than X’s and O’s however.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:19 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because most coaches are wedded to a system. People were saying that Saban could never handle the modern XBOX offenses due to his love for big linemen. So he gets big fast linemen. He changed with the time.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:18 am to Quidam65
The recruiting game creeps me out, so I try not to follow too closely, but I see this Hill kid flipped back to Michigan.
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Pac 12 Struggles to Keep Up.
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Pac 12 Struggles to Keep Up.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:24 am to Bunk Moreland
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Pac 12 Struggles to Keep Up.
Meh...Oregon and UW are recruiting very well. SC and Stanford should finish top 20 as well.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:30 am to S
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Wallace Gillberry is one of my bodyguards FYI
I loved me some Brooks Daniels. Dude was like 190 playing LB.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:35 am to Bunk Moreland
Hill flipped back to Michigan but Bama picked up a safety flip from Ohio State.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 10:41 am to KosmoCramer
Georgia might just up and have the best ever class on paper, again 
Posted on 12/19/18 at 11:20 am to ReauxlTide222
Purdue is currently in the top 25???
Not sure I ever recall that one
Not sure I ever recall that one
Posted on 12/19/18 at 11:37 am to Bunk Moreland
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The recruiting game creeps me out, so I try not to follow too closely, but I see this Hill kid flipped back to Michigan.
If I were a Gump, I wouldn’t be too broken up about this kid. Guys that do all of this flipping back and forth are frequently underwhelming.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 11:40 am to RLDSC FAN
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This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 11:42 am
Posted on 12/19/18 at 11:58 am to PrimeTime Money
Just updated the title. Might as well discuss early signing period.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:18 pm to RLDSC FAN
5 start DE Zach Harrison chose Ohio State.
Huge upside potential. 6'5, 240lbs that runs a 10.82 100 meter dash.
4th overall recruit.
Huge upside potential. 6'5, 240lbs that runs a 10.82 100 meter dash.
4th overall recruit.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:21 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Jk I lied
Georgia might just up and have the best ever class on paper, again
Posted on 12/19/18 at 12:57 pm to ReauxlTide222
Looks like OU might get 3 of the top 10 WRs in the nation
Posted on 12/19/18 at 1:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:Clemson picked up two with Landon and Ngata.
Looks like OU might get 3 of the top 10 WRs in the nation
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 1:53 pm
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