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re: When do we see a 7 foot WR in the NFL?
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:21 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:21 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I know most tall guys will be TE’s or OT’s but some just can’t fill out like an Anthony Davis. Then if an Anthony Davis type actually hates basketball but loves football. Someone like AD would struggle blocking but throw one up for him in the end zone.
We are already seeing 6’6 and 6’7 receivers. The DB’s aren’t following suit. Wr’s already trending up in height.
We are already seeing 6’6 and 6’7 receivers. The DB’s aren’t following suit. Wr’s already trending up in height.
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:23 am to Soup Sammich
I’ve always wondered why this hasn’t been a thing yet. Some athletic but failed former basketball player could get up higher than anyone and there’s nothing anyone else can do about it, as long as the pass is on the money.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:32 am to PrimeTime Money
Exactly. Now maybe AD requested a trade to the Saints and not to an NBaa team!
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:10 pm to Soup Sammich
Without expanding rosters I'm not sure who would be the first NFL team to try a 7-footer as a red zone target "specialist" who can't play anywhere else on the field. Wouldn't be a bad idea for the XFL to try though, seems right up their alley.
If they do poach someone from basketball (i.e. whoever the 10th best center in the NCAA is this year), then you're also indoctrinating them into football culture at the same time, which is a lot of energy for a 1 trick pony. For a while you wouldn't be able to audible while this extra receiver is on the field.
One or two false starts, illegal motion, illegal formation penalties may even be enough to offset the percieved gain of having the athletic freak in that role, instead just using the 6'5" Tight End you already have.
Now, turning some random basketball walk-on into an Australian Rules Football Player, much more plausible!
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If they do poach someone from basketball (i.e. whoever the 10th best center in the NCAA is this year), then you're also indoctrinating them into football culture at the same time, which is a lot of energy for a 1 trick pony. For a while you wouldn't be able to audible while this extra receiver is on the field.
One or two false starts, illegal motion, illegal formation penalties may even be enough to offset the percieved gain of having the athletic freak in that role, instead just using the 6'5" Tight End you already have.
Now, turning some random basketball walk-on into an Australian Rules Football Player, much more plausible!
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:19 pm to Soup Sammich
Tough in the NFL because of limited roster spots. However, a team will eventually sign a former basketball player than is close to 7 ft to block field goals and extra points and be a situational red zone threat.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 6:11 pm to lynxcat
quote:All you need is one guy and the vision to use him.
Tough in the NFL because of limited roster spots. However, a team will eventually sign a former basketball player than is close to 7 ft to block field goals and extra points and be a situational red zone threat.
Look at what Sean Payton did with Taysom Hill.
No, Hill isn't anywhere near 7', nor is he a WR. But Hill does have a good group of skills that are pretty rare in the NFL, and other teams don't spend any time preparing for a guy like him.
The right usage of a 7 ft player would be the same thing- one roster spot, with potential for big mismatches, and opposing teams unsure what to do with him.
A wasted roster spot? Maybe, maybe not. You can have him stand behind the line and jump on kick defense, you have the defenseless receiver rule preventing undercuts on catches. You might get 10, 15 plays a game out of him, and maybe half would be first down/TDs.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 6:39 pm to Scoob
Villanueva is what 6’10”?
Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:15 pm to Soup Sammich
I've thought about this for soccer.
Why not put a LeBron out there? Soccer players aren't the biggest or most physical athletes around. Get some super-tall athletic freak(s) and just have them crash the net and go for headers on set pieces and send-ins. Who the hell is going to box out or out jump LeBron for a corner kick?
I know there would be a huge learning curve, but what have we got to lose? We suck at soccer anyways. Might as well try something different.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:44 pm to Scoob
I’ve been downvoted to oblivion for this thread but I still think it will happen in the near future. I’m not talking about bringing in a 6’11 basketball player and trying to turn him into an NFL receiver.
More along the lines of a Julio Jones in high school. 5 star WR that is tall already. Then hits a growth spurt and is a 20 year old 7ft WR while still being a great athlete.
I know that is extremely rare but Earvin Johnson from UNO and then the NBA comes to mind. He didn’t play high school basketball and was 6’1 or so when he graduated. 2 or 3 years later he was 6’11 and the UNO coach gets him to come play. Had a stint in the NBA.
Once somebody does break the barrier, I can see other big guy and fast guys making the jump.
Chris Johnson the former LSU center is the type I’m imagining. Not skilled enough for the NBA but damn near 7 feet tall but skinny as hell. A WR with his height and hops would be unstoppable with decent hands.
More along the lines of a Julio Jones in high school. 5 star WR that is tall already. Then hits a growth spurt and is a 20 year old 7ft WR while still being a great athlete.
I know that is extremely rare but Earvin Johnson from UNO and then the NBA comes to mind. He didn’t play high school basketball and was 6’1 or so when he graduated. 2 or 3 years later he was 6’11 and the UNO coach gets him to come play. Had a stint in the NBA.
Once somebody does break the barrier, I can see other big guy and fast guys making the jump.
Chris Johnson the former LSU center is the type I’m imagining. Not skilled enough for the NBA but damn near 7 feet tall but skinny as hell. A WR with his height and hops would be unstoppable with decent hands.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:26 pm to Soup Sammich
I think a 7’4” guy could just stand behind the line on FGs raise up his hands and wreck shite up
Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:28 pm to Soup Sammich
Harold Carmichael was a Giant, his height(he was an Eagle).
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:45 pm to gobuxgo5
Back on the day, I seem to remember they used to allow players to stand under the goal post and try and block the ball if it was close to the crossbar. Can’t imagine it would have worked very often.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:49 pm to LSUFanMizeWay
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Harold Carmichael was a Giant, his height(he was an Eagle).
I can’t believe I’ve never heard of this guy but he is exactly what I’m talking about. I fail to see how this wouldn’t be a very useful weapon for an NFL team.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 9:55 pm to Soup Sammich
Never. Guys that tall will pick the NBA where you can make way more money and need way less technical skill, way less brains and have less wear and tear on the body
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:23 pm to Rand AlThor
Yeah but some people love football and hate basketball. Would Jerry Rice have given up football for basketball if he grew 8 inches in college.
It goes the other way also. LSU related, Brian Bridgewater and Big Baby Davis lover basketball more than football but they both were probably better football prospects. Even though Big Baby had a nice NBA career that worked out for him.
Tight Ends are already crossing over. Why not WR’s?
It goes the other way also. LSU related, Brian Bridgewater and Big Baby Davis lover basketball more than football but they both were probably better football prospects. Even though Big Baby had a nice NBA career that worked out for him.
Tight Ends are already crossing over. Why not WR’s?
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:44 am to Soup Sammich
There are VERY few athletes over 6'6 that have the skills and athleticism to play WR or even TE. Those that do usually become multi-year NBA starters.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:28 pm to Soup Sammich
7 footers are fragile and slow.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:53 pm to AUFANATL
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Get some super-tall athletic freak(s) and just have them crash the net and go for headers on set pieces and send-ins. Who the hell is going to box out or out jump LeBron for a corner kick?
Percentage of total goals scored as headers:
Premier League (19.4%)
#LaLiga (18.6%)
Ligue 1 (17.5%)
#Bundesliga (16.6%)
Serie A (16.2%)
you would be sacrificing for someone worse at 80%+ of goalscoring opportunities for a chance of maximizing ur chances at scoring during set pieces which happen a few times during a 90 minute game. (not to mention you would get less corners if you had someone that wasnt good at creating them)
teams already have specialists at heading off set pieces, they are called center defenders. i doubt being 7 foot instead of 6'5 would be a huge advantage anyway, the guys that are the best are so because they are really good at getting separation for a clear header so the defender cant knock them off the ball. Harry Kane is only 6'2
Posted on 1/29/19 at 2:04 pm to sgallo3
not to mention the fact that there are 40,000 soccer clubs in england alone. if this strategy worked at least one of them wouldve used it to win like the 5th tier league and it wouldve caught on
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:53 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:That's just not true. There are a ton of 6'6"-6'8" guys who have plenty of athleticism, that never sniff the league. That's because they can't shoot beyond 5 ft to save their lives.
There are VERY few athletes over 6'6 that have the skills and athleticism to play WR or even TE. Those that do usually become multi-year NBA starters.
That's the type guy you want, not a true 7 ft player.
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