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re: When will the Marcus Freeman seat get hot?
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:36 pm to Blutarsky
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:36 pm to Blutarsky
There’s a big name team out there that’s going to benefit from Notre Dames premature move with Freeman..
He needed to gain the experience and contacts as a head coach somewhere less prestigious..
In the end… maybe he can get notre dame going this or next year but that could get bumpy
He needed to gain the experience and contacts as a head coach somewhere less prestigious..
In the end… maybe he can get notre dame going this or next year but that could get bumpy
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:37 pm to Blutarsky
He'll get 3 years. He needs to find a new OC
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:47 pm to RLDSC FAN
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He'll get 3 years. He needs to find a new OC
They've got a 5-star QB (Llyod Carr's grandson) slated to come in next year.
He will get 4 years minimum.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 9:00 pm to BUGAtGOAT
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What’s his excuse for not winning right away?
Nothing other than the media's boner for hating BK.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 9:01 pm to KosmoCramer
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He will get 4 years minimum.
Agreed, but it's only because ND will never admit they wished BK never left. They literally can't fire Freeman too soon.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:00 pm to BUGAtGOAT
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What’s his excuse for not winning right away? It’s not like he was left with a bad team and had to rebuild BK left them with a solid roster and Freeman had a great recruiting class
This is just not true and has been discussed ad nasuem. This team has nothing at QB, bunch of new guys on the OL, and little to no talent at WR. Defense is solid, and has been what has kept them in games so far.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:30 pm to lionward2014
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This is just not true and has been discussed ad nasuem. This team has nothing at QB, bunch of new guys on the OL, and little to no talent at WR.
That still doesn't excuse losing home games to bad Marshall and Stanford teams.
I think most people believed ND was overrated in the preseason polls, but they were still ranked #5. This wasn't supposed to be a rebuilding year for them.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:33 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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How long did Tyrone willingham get?
Hopefully Freeman isn't as obsessed with improving his short game as Ty was. Otherwise he'll get more time if they see the effort and not him booking recruiting trips around tee times.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:42 pm to GentleJackJones
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Notre Dame barely has Power-5 players in their front 7. Some of their linebackers, safeties, and defensive front are astonishingly bad
That's just not true
Notre Dame has PLENTY of talent. They are far and away more talented than Stanford. From 2018-2022 every single recruiting class they've had was top 15.. 3 of them being top 10. So EASILY top 10 in the nation in terms of talent on the roster. The way you put it, it makes it seem like Kelly's recruiting was the process... However, the stats show that it's the coaching that sucks. And that's not to say the players don't actually suck. They may very well be trash. But that would be because Freeman and crew haven't coached these clearly talented kids up. End of discussion.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:48 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
Let's be real. ND would NEVER consider firing him until at least year 3. They have the #3 recruiting class in the nation this year... And they haven't had a class like that in years! People LOVE stars. So, if he can continue to bring in big players, he'll have a job
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:05 am to SoFunnyItsNot
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That's just not true Notre Dame has PLENTY of talent. They are far and away more talented than Stanford. From 2018-2022 every single recruiting class they've had was top 15.. 3 of them being top 10. So EASILY top 10 in the nation in terms of talent on the roster.
The way you put it, it makes it seem like Kelly's recruiting was the process... However, the stats show that it's the coaching that sucks. And that's not to say the players don't actually suck. They may very well be trash. But that would be because Freeman and crew haven't coached these clearly talented kids up. End of discussion.
They should be able to beat Marshall and Stanford with the 5th string QB. Lack of talent my arse.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:41 am to Blutarsky
He’ll get 3-4 years just because notre dame would get hammered as racist if they fired him.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:05 am to Blutarsky
Buddy of mine who is a huge ND fan and was in favor of the hire tells me the AD locked down their OC before he even hired Freeman, in effect tying his hands on that hire not letting Freeman pick his own guy....and he was furious with the offensive game plan.
Says ND outweighed Stanford by 65 lbs. on the line but did not try to establish a run and instead had their undersize QB pocket passing all night.
I did not watch the game so just reporting what he said. And not sure if all ND fans are delegating blame as he is.
Says ND outweighed Stanford by 65 lbs. on the line but did not try to establish a run and instead had their undersize QB pocket passing all night.
I did not watch the game so just reporting what he said. And not sure if all ND fans are delegating blame as he is.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:21 am to nvasil1
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That still doesn't excuse losing home games to bad Marshall and Stanford teams.
The “ND has no talent” excuse doesn’t hold weight, especially when they’re losing home games to Marshall and the worst Stanford team since the Walt Harris era.
And don’t look now, but the bloom has come off the Marshall rose and they’re 3-3 now, so Notre Dame can’t exactly point to them as some trendy, hot G5 team this year.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 7:23 am
Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:45 am to GentleJackJones
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Notre Dame isn’t the school that typically does that.
They hired a high school coach and a guy who claimed he graduated from a made-up university on his resume.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:21 am to Blutarsky
Reading their boards, it appears that most are willing to put all of the blame on the OC this year and hold out hope that Freeman recruits better than he picks assistants. I doubt you hear much about a hot seat unless he loses to scrub teams again next year. This year is just proof that Rees without the BK filter is just not a good OC
Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:38 am to nvasil1
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That still doesn't excuse losing home games to bad Marshall and Stanford teams.
Completely agree, those are inexcusable losses, but that doesn't mean this
quote:is true.
It’s not like he was left with a bad team and had to rebuild BK left them with a solid roster
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I think most people believed ND was overrated in the preseason polls, but they were still ranked #5. This wasn't supposed to be a rebuilding year for them.
Because poll voters are idiots. Anyone who looked at this roster and thought it would be a top 15 team is completely biased or just looking at the name. This offense was always going to be real bad. 9-3 was the ceiling. This is the exact reason why people hate on ND for always being overrated, because dumbass AP writers put them extremely too high when the large majority of the fan base knows they aren't that good.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:44 am to lionward2014
Yea it’s Brian Kelly’s fault ND sucks
Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:44 am to Tiger Ugly
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AD locked down their OC before he even hired Freeman,
Reese was an absolutely terrible hire and was sign #1 that this could go very badly.
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Says ND outweighed Stanford by 65 lbs. on the line but did not try to establish a run
10000% this. We have a 230 pound power back and he called a jet sweep on 4th and 1 inside the red zone that got stopped early in the game. Estime and Diggs only had combined 17 carries, and averaged 7.1 and 6.3 yards respectively, but we kept relying on a QB who was 13/27 passing. Absolutely dumb coaching.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:45 am to Sun God
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Yea it’s Brian Kelly’s fault ND sucks
Who has said that in this thread? Show receipts. Saying this team lacks talent and has holes has nothing to do with saying it is BK's fault.
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