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Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:34 am to OMLandshark
He turned off the cameras.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:12 am to Dr RC
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That’s the dumbest moment in the Jurassic Park franchise.
Nah, in the original 3 it's this moment.
The raptors didn’t actually speak English, it was a very short dream that Alan was having in that scene. How is that in the top 50 dumbest moments? It was a dream. they could’ve gone anywhere with it and it could be explained away
I’d have to rewatch but of the original 3 I’d have to think the dumbest moment was when they were in the RV hanging off the side of the cliff above sharp rocks in the ocean and they survive the crash of the entire RV by holding on to a rope as the 50+ ft long RV crashes around them. No debris or anything hits them and all the glass is busted out already for it to just crash perfectly around them
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:27 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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I’d have to rewatch but of the original 3 I’d have to think the dumbest moment was when they were in the RV hanging off the side of the cliff above sharp rocks in the ocean and they survive the crash of the entire RV by holding on to a rope as the 50+ ft long RV crashes around them. No debris or anything hits them and all the glass is busted out already for it to just crash perfectly around them
Plus, Eddie Carr was done dirty.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:21 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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The raptors didn’t actually speak English, it was a very short dream that Alan was having in that scene. How is that in the top 50 dumbest moments? It was a dream. they could’ve gone anywhere with it and it could be explained away
I have argued that on this site for decades now.
Of course it's weird and dumb, but it's a dream. A raptor doesn't actually talk in the movie. I always thought it was weird people were so bent our of shape for that.
Just like the gymnastics shite in TLW. The daughter took gymnastics and it came in handy later in the movie. That's it. Was it stupid that she was able to take out a raptor like that? Sure. But it at least makes some sense within the framework of the movie. And she literally just kicked it down. It's not like she had a fist fight with it.
I enjoyed re-reading this thread. But I saw one that wasn't mentioned (and I can't believe I never brought it up a few years ago in this thread). This bullshite:
Alan and Ellie are literally trying to hold a door closed to keep a raptor out, and they are trying to reach the gun. I think Ellie even says at one point "You can't hold it by yourself!"
All while Tim fricking stands there looking over Lex's shoulder LITERALLY DOING frickING NOTHING. Be useful, you fricking prick. Go help them hold the door closed. Or better yet, since they are screaming at each other about grabbing the fricking shotgun sitting right there several feet away from you, go grab it and hand it to Alan so he can shoot that raptor in the face.
But nah, he just stands there like a gimp doing absolutely nothing and being zero help to everyone involved. Even as a kid that pissed me off so much. And his helplessness almost cost all of them their lives. Idiot.
Also, apprently Joseph Mazzello has addressed this before.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:22 am to Sun God
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Also they must’ve spent a fortune on cattle lifting harnesses.
I've thought about this. How inefficient
Just drop em in there from 8 feet up in the air. Worst case, they get wounded and are an easier kill.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:24 am to CocomoLSU
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Alan and Ellie are literally trying to hold a door closed to keep a raptor out, and they are trying to reach the gun. I think Ellie even says at one point "You can't hold it by yourself!"
All while Tim fricking stands there looking over Lex's shoulder LITERALLY DOING frickING NOTHING. Be useful, you fricking prick. Go help them hold the door closed. Or better yet, since they are screaming at each other about grabbing the fricking shotgun sitting right there several feet away from you, go grab it and hand it to Alan so he can shoot that raptor in the face.
But nah, he just stands there like a gimp doing absolutely nothing and being zero help to everyone involved. Even as a kid that pissed me off so much. And his helplessness almost cost all of them their lives. Idiot.
This is why I hated him in The Pacific.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:31 am to CatfishJohn
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Just drop em in there from 8 feet up in the air. Worst case, they get wounded and are an easier kill.
I always wondered how they rounded up the raptors to get them into the feeding paddock. Per Arnold's park map on his computer, the actual raptor paddock is as big as some of the others. That's a big arse area to have to round up raptors, who are smarter than all the other dinos.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:44 am to CocomoLSU
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Also, apprently Joseph Mazzello has addressed this before.
I mean, he has a point. Still pisses me off though.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:57 am to CocomoLSU
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I always wondered how they rounded up the raptors to get them into the feeding paddock. Per Arnold's park map on his computer, the actual raptor paddock is as big as some of the others. That's a big arse area to have to round up raptors, who are smarter than all the other dinos.
I don't think they were ever released into the main park. Can't remember if this is mentioned in the movie or if I'm remembering it from the book, but I think they had been in the small paddock the whole time bc they couldn't keep them under control
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:37 am to Sam Quint
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I don't think they were ever released into the main park. Can't remember if this is mentioned in the movie or if I'm remembering it from the book, but I think they had been in the small paddock the whole time bc they couldn't keep them under control
Well they weren't all in that tiny arse paddock. At one point Muldoon even says the head female killed all but two of the others, and that wasn't happening in that 15x25 box. Her also says something like "We had to start feeding them like this" or whatever. So they 100% aren't always in that tiny paddock.
He also asks Ray to check if the raptor fences were till working when the power starts shutting down. And he checks it on the computer screen I posted above showing the huge raptor paddock.
ETA: I remember having this discussion a while back. This was a post of mine from April of this year:
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No, why would they move the raptors from one place to another to feed when every other dinosaur gets fed in its regular paddock? Set the food out for the raptors just like they did with the goat for T. Rex
In the opening scene of the movie where the worker gets killed by a raptor, they were trying to load the raptor into that same enclosure.
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I know. I’m saying that was some sort of transport thing or feeding thing. What you say makes sense but my thought was always that the raptors were housed somewhere else. Muldoon says “she killed all but two of the others,” meaning they had at least 5 or 6 raptors at one point. And that raptor pen is what, like 15x20 feet? There’s no way they had that many in that tiny enclosure. But I guess I never thought it that being the only place the raptors were kept.
TigerPrawn...Okay, I completely forgot about several things and just looked them up.
In the first scene where we see Muldoon and they are feeding the raptor in the tiny cage, he says this:
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"Fifty, sixty miles per hour if they ever got out in the open. She's the reason we have to feed 'em like this. She had them all attacking the fences when the feeders came."
So there it is...they literally are feeding them "like this" and don't keep them in that tiny arse cage all the time.
Also, when Muldoon asks Arnold later on to check if the raptor fences were still on, here is a screenshot of what the raptor paddock actually looks like:
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 11:42 am
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:12 pm to Sam Quint
Can we get all dinosaur nerd up here and talk about how actual velociraptors were the size of Turkeys? And while I wouldn’t want to fight one hand to hand, I don’t think it would be near the list of the scariest dinosaurs to face. The Raptors in Jurassic park are way too big and strong compared to the actual animals.
I have my 5yr old to thank for that useless information
I have my 5yr old to thank for that useless information
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:35 pm to Tiger1242
Utahraptors were the ones you would want to avoid, but that name didn’t sound as intimidating I guess.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:51 pm to Dr RC
I’m pleased to see this was a random resurrected thread.
I was worried I would have to remake my Dino Droppings post from page 5
I was worried I would have to remake my Dino Droppings post from page 5
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:00 pm to habz007
One simple and inconsequential thing that always bothered me was how Malcolm sees the big doors they were about to go thru and goes “what do they have in there? King Kong?” After seeing actual giant dinosaurs.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:11 pm to OMLandshark
Old topic and 8 pages in so probably already mentioned, but how Dr. Grant knew that a T Rex couldn't see something standing still just from uncovering ancient dinosaur bones was absurd to me, even as a little kid watching it.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 12:42 am to deeprig9
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Old topic and 8 pages in so probably already mentioned, but how Dr. Grant knew that a T Rex couldn't see something standing still just from uncovering ancient dinosaur bones was absurd to me, even as a little kid watching it.
I am working off of memory here, but I believe in the book they had already been told that the company used frog DNA to fill in gaps in the recovered dino DNA, and Grant knew that frogs can only see objects in motion so he made the assumption that the recreated dinosaurs would be the same. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:56 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Before anyone asks, the T-Rex got into the Visitors Center through the unfinished wall (blue arrow). 4:3 VHS releases always crop out the wide shot, so a lot of people who have never seen the widescreen format of Jurassic Park think that this is a continuity error.
I mean, sure. But who builds a visitor center that’s like 98% functional but is still missing a massive wall.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:58 am to tWildcat
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Utahraptors were the ones you would want to avoid, but that name didn’t sound as intimidating I guess.
Isn’t it true those were only discovered while they were making the movie or right after?
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:42 am to theGarnetWay
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Isn’t it true those were only discovered while they were making the movie or right after?
Yeah IIRC the raptor stuff wasn't really discovered until after 1993.
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One simple and inconsequential thing that always bothered me was how Malcolm sees the big doors they were about to go thru and goes “what do they have in there? King Kong?” After seeing actual giant dinosaurs.
That's a great point, and I never considered that until now.
But you're 100% right, he had already seen gigantic brachiosauruses walking around (among others). Now that's gonna bother me every time I watch it going forward.
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