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Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:39 am to
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:39 am to
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Funny because I remember you vehemently supporting Lincoln last year, and that film was total Oscar bait too.
Not to mention a snooze fest.

Gravity isn't one of the better films this year let alone the last 20 years.

All it has going for it, is the 3-D and sound.

And I like The Clooney and Bullock so my rating of the movie is not a result of them.

I thought the script sucked. Interesting how they bounced back and forth all over the place, then Clooney DIDN'T bounce back for NO REASON.

BS hallucination scene is BS.

I continue to love how the same people who hated on AVATAR love this one. Both are only good for the 3-D and as much as I hate the Avatar script, I would rather rewatch it over Gravity.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 8:42 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:47 am to
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On the other hand you have a film like Gravity, a true cinematic achievement, that no studio wanted to touch with a 10 meter cattle prod. It was a huge risk to make with very little margin for error. And Alfonso Cuaron, the film's director, knocked it out of the park.

he won best director...and i think that was the right choice

gravity as an overall film, though, had issues. all of the movies nominated had issues

*ETA: i haven't seen 12YAS and it may not have the same issues of the others
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 8:51 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:51 am to
gravity was a great cinematic experience but as a story, it's not as good as the rest of the best picture nominees
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:57 am to
When will people realize that perhaps a film about slavery can be well made?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:04 am to
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When will people realize that perhaps a film about slavery can be well made?

i don't think people are saying a film about slavery will always suck. this reminds me of my thoughts on how true detective unfolded: i've seen it before so it loses some interest and my expectations will be lowered.

i've seen movies about slavery before. i understand completely that slavery fricking sucks. if the movie's biggest selling point is telling the "story of slavery" again with slight differences, i lose interest in seeing it. i'll watch it eventually, but my desire/interest is low

and i'm not hating on 12YAS. gravity was awesome to see, but it's plot was the same ole same ole. WoWS was nothing special in this regard, either
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:09 am to
12YaS certainly demonstrates the horrors of slavery, but it's far more than that. It's one man's incredible experience with great acting al around
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:15 am to
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It's one man's incredible experience

to be fair, every slavery movie involves this, too

i'll watch it eventually, and i don't care that it won. the field this year wasn't especially strong (i mean i'd probably make an argument for american hustle, and that movie was good, not great. i didn't see blue jasmine or nebraska, either, to be fair)
Posted by GetCocky11
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:16 am to
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the field this year wasn't especially strong


Really? I thought this was one of the stronger years in awhile.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68263 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:18 am to
Well if that's how broad your measures are, a movie can only do a subject matter once.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:19 am to
in terms of "great" movies, the depth was good for the tier right below that, but i don't know if any really were great

movies like WoWS and Gravity had major flaws that people are glossing over atm
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:20 am to
Although I agree with the point to some degree, I don't think Gravity should've won.

1. Dallas Buyers Club
2. Wolf
3. Gravity
4. AH
5. 12 years

ETA: go ahead, call me a racist...........and prove my point.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 9:21 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
107018 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:23 am to
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I disagree with you


Cosigned.

It was one of those years where I think you could've made an argument for any of the movies nominated but can't see an "OMG SNUB" moment.

As for being "tired" of the Academy picking the way they do you (OP) must've been tired of it your whole life and then some. These are the same folks who snubbed pretty much everything Hitchcock made.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38549 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:39 am to
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quote:

When will people realize that perhaps a film about slavery can be well made?


i don't think people are saying a film about slavery will always suck. this reminds me of my thoughts on how true detective unfolded: i've seen it before so it loses some interest and my expectations will be lowered.

i've seen movies about slavery before. i understand completely that slavery fricking sucks. if the movie's biggest selling point is telling the "story of slavery" again with slight differences, i lose interest in seeing it. i'll watch it eventually, but my desire/interest is low

and i'm not hating on 12YAS. gravity was awesome to see, but it's plot was the same ole same ole. WoWS was nothing special in this regard, either


I don't think anyone is saying 12 Years isn't a well made film. It's just...predictable. That's Slow's point. It really isn't breaking any new ground. And I don't think it isn't "deserving," it's just a bunch of films are.
Posted by 69sleuth
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
379 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:39 am to
Oh and Inception is one of the most vastly overrated movies in this lifetime.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38549 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:41 am to
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It's one man's incredible experience


You're better than that. Isn't every movie, "one [insert gender/class/singular identifier]'s incredible experience?"

If we say that 12 Years deserves it BECAUSE it's one man's incredible journey through "slavery," then that's a little unfair. Gravity is, literally, one woman's incredible journey...in space.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:44 am to
RollTide, basically everything this year was a lock from the start. There were no surprises. Quit acting like you're fricking Nostradamus.
Posted by HerbEaverstinks
Member since Jan 2011
4511 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:44 am to
Yeah, well these pictures always win. The good thing, though, is they pretty much pushed the envelop as far as they could this time.

Not even "24 Years A Slave" with an intense arse-whipping the entire 3 hours will win now.

Maybe, it's finally over.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:45 am to
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It's one man's incredible experience


The story is incredible.

That's the reason the book has won Pulitzer and the screenplay won.

Still doesn't change that the movie could've been made better.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:47 am to
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Visually, I thought Gravity was stunning. Otherwise, I didnt really enjoy it that much. A fire extinguisher.....really??



It paid homage to another film where a fire extinguisher was used to project that character through space. It's not supposed to exactly be realistic. If the space debris was going that quickly, then it would have escaped Earth's orbit for instance and never come back around. Cuaron knew this, he just didn't care since it made for the better film.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12475 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:50 am to
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movies like WoWS... had major flaws that people are glossing over atm


No shite. WoWS was about 30 minutes too long, for one, which is typical of Scorsese. For another, as funny as it was, it got to the point of oversaturation with all the shite that Belfort kept getting into. Show him spiral completely out of control already. Enjoyed the movie, but Jesus, that story did not need three hours of drugs, "frick," and Jonah Hill jerking off.
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