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Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:33 am to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:33 am to
The rock breaking steel pipe has already been pointed out.

Also, I don't think the warden would have shot himself. I think he would have faced the charges, made bail, and skipped bail. It's not part of his character to be suicidal. He's more like a Saddam Hussein, not an Adolf Hitler.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
3111 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:39 am to
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The rock breaking steel pipe has already been pointed out.


Bro it was Cast Iron not steel. Cast Iron will break.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74574 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:46 am to
It would have required a lot less suspension of disbelief if there were some kind of maintenance cap to access than simply busting it open with a giant rock.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
3111 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 12:01 pm to
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It would have required a lot less suspension of disbelief if there were some kind of maintenance cap to access than simply busting it open with a giant rock.




Dude Cast Iron is brittle, It will break once it has been subjected to stress cracks.

So by that account, did you want to see more indepth scenes of the sisters gang raping Andy? Because you didnt see the stressed out cast iron sewage pipe break? They didnt a pre-stress test or analysis before or after they laid the pipe?
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4650 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 5:28 pm to
Had to bust up the the cast iron pipe in my basement that goes out to the septic tank for a repair job.

I used a sledgehammer.
Should have used a big rock.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33860 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:19 pm to
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But what if he didn't remember it? Would he have just worked at the grocery store and stayed in that little town the rest of his life, and Andy would've just assumed that Red either never got out or didn't go find the letter he had left for him?

It really didnt matter to Andy if Red acted on it or not. Mexico was Andys dream.

Andy just gave Red the opportunity for hope after prison life. Which Brooks didnt have. If Red would have never gone searching, or forgot their talks, it wouldnt have changed Andys story

Plus, we never get to know whether Red eventually returned to the US, after helping Andy for a bit
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155941 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:43 pm to
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It really didnt matter to Andy if Red acted on it or not. Mexico was Andys dream.

I do t completely agree with that. Well, yes it was Andy’s dream, so having Red there was a bonus. But that was basically his best friend, so it definitely “mattered” to him if he showed up. But I get your point.
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Plus, we never get to know whether Red eventually returned to the US, after helping Andy for a bit

Why in the world would he show back up in the US? Especially after breaking his parole.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33860 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:59 pm to
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Especially after breaking his parole.

In his voiceover Red said violating his parole likely wouldnt "toss up any roadblocks for that, not for an old crook like me. Get busy living, or get busy dying"

He just didnt give an eff anymore
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
3111 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:19 pm to
Zihuatanejo

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Zihuatanejo is a resort city on Mexico’s Pacific Coast, northwest of Acapulco. It’s known for its beaches, like the sweeping Playa La Ropa, which is backed by palm trees. Galleries and seafood restaurants line the city’s winding lanes. Offshore, the sea teems with marine life such as dolphins and sea turtles. Long, sandy Playa El Palmar is the main beach in the neighboring town of Ixtapa. - Google
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
4224 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:09 pm to
He wouldn’t have needed to get a map in Maine. He would have been near the Texas border and got a map of Mexico. Don’t think he needed to get a map from Maine to the Texas border.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14273 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:05 am to
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Regardless of whether he was the youngest, if he made VP, I’d say chances are good he was loaded.

Known many bankers in your life? Can't speak for the 1940s, but today banks hand out VP titles like candy on Halloween. Very rarely does the title also come with a commiserate salary. I believe that trend at least goes back to the 80s if not earlier.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6519 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:22 am to
Who is to say when Red said it out loud, he wasn't reading it from the letter? It was possibly written in the letter but Red was excited and said it out loud while reading it.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
1805 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:46 am to
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Is there any fiction set in Maine not written by Stephen King other than Murder She Wrote


There is a psychological thriller series I just watched on Netflix called Castle Rock. It wasn't written by King, but he was a producer. It was based on the town (Castle Rock) where Shawshank prison resides. Two seasons.

Sissy Spacek (from King's movie Carrie) is in it.

Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
1805 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:51 am to
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That used to bother me. But he was a rock expert and would’ve known what rocks would have been hard and strong enough to break that pipe. That’s how I always straightened that out.


I thought the pipe was old and rusted. That is how I justified it.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
1805 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:54 am to
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He got the map in Texas near the border.


Fort Hancock, just south of El Paso.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
1805 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:58 am to
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Zihuatanejo

quote:
Zihuatanejo is a resort city on Mexico’s Pacific Coast, northwest of Acapulco. It’s known for its beaches, like the sweeping Playa La Ropa, which is backed by palm trees. Galleries and seafood restaurants line the city’s winding lanes. Offshore, the sea teems with marine life such as dolphins and sea turtles. Long, sandy Playa El Palmar is the main beach in the neighboring town of Ixtapa. - Google


I've been there. It is a cool place.

Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
13068 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:09 pm to
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I never understood why Andy goes to the warden who he knows is a crook instead of writing the legislature or ACLU?


That and the fact that Andy is a rich banker who could afford the best lawyer money could buy in 1946, and his lawyer told him to take the stand.

You don’t let your client take the stand in that case. Instead you do your best poke holes in the evidence and convince the jury that’s there’s a reasonable doubt Andy didn’t do it.


It is based on a Stephen King story so of course it is going to have plot holes.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39327 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:18 pm to
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I don’t think you need to worry about spoilers for a movie that comes on 10 times a day
It's always proper form not to spoil a movie on this forum. There are plenty of people who haven't seen it - both young and old. Just because the twist is common knowledge to you doesn't mean everyone knows it.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38193 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:45 pm to
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For goodness sakes, it starts with a "Z", people.

"Zoo York? No, that wasn't it."

"Zos Angeles? No..."

"Zilwaukee. shite, what was the fricking name."
Posted by donut
Face, USA
Member since Jan 2004
3181 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 1:14 pm to
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I sat there last night and thought: But what if he didn't remember it? Would he have just worked at the grocery store and stayed in that little town the rest of his life, and Andy would've just assumed that Red either never got out or didn't go find the letter he had left for him?



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