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re: Survivor 42... Premiere 3/9
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:46 pm to UMRealist
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:46 pm to UMRealist
If Romeo doesn’t pull off that immunity win, he clearly loses in fire. Jonathan would have had no chance on jury, sadly. It would still have come down to Mike and Maryanne.
She did well vs the jury. She was fun and likable early on but quickly became annoying by mid season. But she truly had a solid back third of the season. She was proven trustworthy, and her and Mike built what they did to oust their targets.
She built her protection around her, and she made the right decisions that paid off at the right times. I would have personally played it like Mike and Jonathan wanted and made the safe vote to get Romeo out couple weeks ago. But she knew she had the extra vote, and she had faith in Romeo to stick to the plan and ensure Omar went home.
She was lacking big time in multiple areas, and she was clearly dead weight early on and next on chopping block. But she survived that.
She’s not my preferred winner, but I’m ok with it after how the entire season played out
Overall… really good season IMO. I enjoyed all the episodes (aside from that one unfortunate nauseating Drea tribal that had no place with this particular cast and season). And it was really a mostly solid cast.
She did well vs the jury. She was fun and likable early on but quickly became annoying by mid season. But she truly had a solid back third of the season. She was proven trustworthy, and her and Mike built what they did to oust their targets.
She built her protection around her, and she made the right decisions that paid off at the right times. I would have personally played it like Mike and Jonathan wanted and made the safe vote to get Romeo out couple weeks ago. But she knew she had the extra vote, and she had faith in Romeo to stick to the plan and ensure Omar went home.
She was lacking big time in multiple areas, and she was clearly dead weight early on and next on chopping block. But she survived that.
She’s not my preferred winner, but I’m ok with it after how the entire season played out
Overall… really good season IMO. I enjoyed all the episodes (aside from that one unfortunate nauseating Drea tribal that had no place with this particular cast and season). And it was really a mostly solid cast.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:12 pm to habz007
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She’s not my preferred winner, but I’m ok with it after how the entire season played out
My sentiments exactly. It was a very enjoyable season when Survivior really needed one.
I wasn’t as big of a Mike fan as most here were. Sure, he was the likeable dad figure, but I didn’t see him make any big moves, he wasn’t a big threat in most challenges, and he seemed to get duped a lot. I weigh my vote more heavily to the physical elements, and Jonathan was the GOAT. The last several tribals have been fantastic.
Going after some stuff in the auction this year. I have a tribal council seat signed by Probst from a few seasons ago. I really want a banner though (or anything saying “outwit, outplay, outlast”).
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:57 pm to TigrrrDad
I am of the mind that the "correct" person wins BB and Survivor everytime. The losers vote for the winner and they were there and I was not. A vote can turn on a small interaction, something that was said or action or inaction.
Lyndsay and Jonathan both lived and dies by the challenge. She lost the critical one for her and Jonathan lost the one challenge you can come to the island fully prepared for.
Romeo was a pure goat and the 4 others were smart to have him along.
Mike blew his shot when he was unprepared and or incapable of making a good argument at final tribal.
Maryanne was always an outside contender. From the beginning, I thought she could go far if she avoided getting on everyone's nerves in the mid-game. She came close for a while but pulled it out and apparently came of more charming than annoying to the only people that count. She did one of the better jobs at final pleading her case.
I tend to pick favorites based on challenge wins I suppose because it is the most objective form of determining order and that is something we as the audience see in toto, where the social gameplay is much harder to see simply because we only view a tiny portion of it because it actually runs 24/7.
Lyndsay, Jonathan and Mike all failed at critical times and Romeo came through at a critical time. Maryanne owned the final tribal and had played a game that at least left the jury members at least willing to vote for her coming into the final tribal.
All in all, I thought 42 was one of the better recent seasons.
Lyndsay and Jonathan both lived and dies by the challenge. She lost the critical one for her and Jonathan lost the one challenge you can come to the island fully prepared for.
Romeo was a pure goat and the 4 others were smart to have him along.
Mike blew his shot when he was unprepared and or incapable of making a good argument at final tribal.
Maryanne was always an outside contender. From the beginning, I thought she could go far if she avoided getting on everyone's nerves in the mid-game. She came close for a while but pulled it out and apparently came of more charming than annoying to the only people that count. She did one of the better jobs at final pleading her case.
I tend to pick favorites based on challenge wins I suppose because it is the most objective form of determining order and that is something we as the audience see in toto, where the social gameplay is much harder to see simply because we only view a tiny portion of it because it actually runs 24/7.
Lyndsay, Jonathan and Mike all failed at critical times and Romeo came through at a critical time. Maryanne owned the final tribal and had played a game that at least left the jury members at least willing to vote for her coming into the final tribal.
All in all, I thought 42 was one of the better recent seasons.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:53 am to Obtuse1
42 was one of the worst 3 seasons ever put on TV, filled with SJW banter. Mike, Drea, Jonathan, or Lindsay should have won.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:30 am to blackandgolddude
3 quarters of the cast now is full of queer liberals. I tried to get my eleven year old son into it the last 2 seasons so we’d have something to watch together. But it was too many cringe worthy moments and he got uncomfortable and we both got annoyed at the sjw and race card bullshite.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:39 am to Obtuse1
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Mike blew his shot when he was unprepared and or incapable of making a good argument at final tribal.
All he had to do was admit that he had to lie to people occasionally. It's part of the game, they all do it. Instead he claimed he only lied to Rosksroy, then crawfished on that, then crawfished even more in his last speech.
He also failed to mention (at least that we saw) that he was on the right side of every vote after the merge.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:47 am to Obtuse1
I will say Maryanne did have a great FTC. She said all the right things and sounded confident when she spoke.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:06 am to blackandgolddude
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42 was one of the worst 3 seasons ever put on TV, filled with SJW banter. Mike, Drea, Jonathan, or Lindsay should have won.
Melt bruh.
This season was infinitely better than last. The SJW stuff was annoying at the beginning of the season when we were getting to know everyone's background, but after E4 or 5 it went away. Ended up being a great season
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:50 am to bluebarracuda
One of the best new cast seasons in 5 or so years
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:58 am to UMRealist
Other than the tranny that lied about his medication and couldn't last until the first tribal it was a great cast.
Hopefully we'll see a few again in the future.
Hopefully we'll see a few again in the future.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:16 am to LSUBoo
Was that this season? Damn. That seems like forever ago.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:23 am to Obtuse1
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I am of the mind that the "correct" person wins BB and Survivor everytime.
I mostly agree with this though I may quibble a bit over the use of correct. I’ll say that most times the winner is deserving of their win. I think Mike and Maryann both had legitimate arguments for winning, so either would have been “correct” winners. Anyone saying Maryann wasn’t deserving is just bitter because they liked Mike over her. She nearly won unanimously by a jury of people that saw her play in person, and that’s no fluke.
I thought Romeo did himself incredible justice at the final tribal arguing his case. I was dreading him bringing up the fake immunity idol because it really didn’t matter, but he seemed to have the awareness to that fact.
Overall, I thought Hai and Omer were much better players than Maryann, but they failed to survive while she did. And surviving is the name of the game.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 8:25 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:30 am to The Spleen
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I think Mike and Maryann both had legitimate arguments for winning, so either would have been “correct” winners. Anyone saying Maryann wasn’t deserving is just bitter because they liked Mike over her.
Not bitter, I just felt Mike had a little bit better resume, overall. Maryanne killed it during final tribal. When I heard her responses, I said she is probably going to win. I will say her getting rid of Omar was the biggest move in the game.
Definitely one of the better seasons in awhile.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:45 am to The Spleen
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I thought Romeo did himself incredible justice at the final tribal arguing his case.
He did the best he could for someone that had to know they were not likely to get a single vote.
I know he talked about winning in his confessionals, but that was just for TV and he was fairly self-aware of his place.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:55 am to LSUBoo
I also thought Mike’s insistence in the after show that he wasn’t upset wasn’t true. The look on his face showed major disappointment. I don’t doubt he was happy for Maryann, but you can be happy for someone else while also being disappointed you lost. Probably just a symptom of his upbringing and culture.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:07 am to LSUBoo
I've always thought that if I was on Survivor, you need to lay low for most of the game and make huge moves at the end because that is what everyone will remember. Maryanne did just that. The move to get Omar was huge. I thought she actually missed her chance to make a big move by playing the surprise idol on Lyndsey and turning her into a goat. I then realized she was going to use that at FTC to show how she was so good that she didn't even need it.
I typically like the winner to be well-rounded in the game. Mike was probably the most well-rounded player in that he was decent in challenges, good socially, and decent strategically. However, I am completely fine with Maryanne winning.
I hate all the SJW stuff as much as the next guy, but I think people using that as a reason to hate this season are just looking for excuses to be angry. This season was excellent. Very likeable cast, and, as Jeff said, that was one of the best final tribals that I can remember. There were hard critiques, but it was very cordial. I am ready for them to go back to a studio reunion, though. I like it better when the cast has a chance to watch the season and see things done behind their backs. Doing the reunion at final tribal robs us of that.
I typically like the winner to be well-rounded in the game. Mike was probably the most well-rounded player in that he was decent in challenges, good socially, and decent strategically. However, I am completely fine with Maryanne winning.
I hate all the SJW stuff as much as the next guy, but I think people using that as a reason to hate this season are just looking for excuses to be angry. This season was excellent. Very likeable cast, and, as Jeff said, that was one of the best final tribals that I can remember. There were hard critiques, but it was very cordial. I am ready for them to go back to a studio reunion, though. I like it better when the cast has a chance to watch the season and see things done behind their backs. Doing the reunion at final tribal robs us of that.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:23 am to The Spleen
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I also thought Mike’s insistence in the after show that he wasn’t upset wasn’t true. The look on his face showed major disappointment. I don’t doubt he was happy for Maryann, but you can be happy for someone else while also being disappointed you lost. Probably just a symptom of his upbringing and culture.
Yea he just had a look of disappointment the whole after show.
Making them do it directly after final tribal is so mean
Posted on 5/26/22 at 12:27 pm to UMRealist
I think everyone is missing the point on Maryann’s immunity necklace . . . the jury was not so much impressed that she didn’t use the immunity . . . they were shocked that she, being the blabber-mouth that she is, was able to keep it a secret.
Romeo was pretty pathetic trying to argue his fake necklace was a “big move”.
Romeo was pretty pathetic trying to argue his fake necklace was a “big move”.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:01 pm to blackandgolddude
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42 was one of the worst 3 seasons ever put on TV, filled with SJW banter. Mike, Drea, Jonathan, or Lindsay should have won.
There are a whole lot of worse seasons. I thoroughly enjoyed almost all of it. You're SJW stuff took up just a bit of mostly a single episode. There were a few tiny bits in a couple of others.
I liked it mostly because these people were not horrible. There wasn't constant drama, which drives me nuts. They mostly seemed to like each other. Most of them actually played the game as well. Omar, Hai, and Drai all went home because they were playing the game pretty hard.
Maryanne mentioned a few times early on that she was letting everyone think she was clueless. She did wear her heart on her sleeve and could certainly be annoying about that, but she figured out how to dial it down when she needed to.
I loved Mike, but his answers at the final tribal council were really lacking. His social game was great, but he just couldn't put together a case. Romeo was the goat. Lindsey and Jonathan pretty much only won challenges. They really didn't have a good social game at all and I don't think they'd have been able to make a good argument if they were at final TC.
Maryanne may not be the all time best winner, but like a previous poster, I believe the jury votes and the winner is the winner. They've outplayed and outlasted and that's all that matters. Maryanne definitely came on strong at the end.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:04 pm to LSUBoo
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I thought Romeo did himself incredible justice at the final tribal arguing his case.
He did the best he could for someone that had to know they were not likely to get a single vote.
The best thing about Romeo is that he really seemed to have a pretty good amount of personal growth on the island. The season, watching all their journeys was pretty enjoyable.
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