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re: The Acolyte Cancelled
Posted on 9/1/24 at 8:38 am to UnluckyTiger
Posted on 9/1/24 at 8:38 am to UnluckyTiger
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lesbian space witches. who thinks of that shite and more importantly, who thinks of that shite and thinks it’s a good idea?
I've been to enough halloween parties to know that I'd totally watch a show about sexy lesbo space witches. Maybe call them the scissor sisters or something.
To me, it's more disturbing that disney had a great idea and made it lame AF.
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Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:05 pm to P-Dawg
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To me, it's more disturbing that disney had a great idea and made it lame AF
Cartman nailed it.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:13 pm to P-Dawg
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To me, it's more disturbing that disney had a great idea and made it lame AF
I agree there was a lot more promise in the premise than they executed on screen.
Manny Jacinto was best part of the show
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:37 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Turns out that the acolyte was even a bigger disaster than we thought. That $180 million was actually British pounds. Making the total of the series to be closer to $240 million US. Each episode costing just shy of $30 million while academy award winning Godzilla minus one cost around 12 million.
Now tell me that Lucas films isn’t actually a massive money laundering scheme.
Now tell me that Lucas films isn’t actually a massive money laundering scheme.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:51 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:Then why use $ symbol?
That’s $180 million was actually British pounds.
Wouldn’t it be £180 million?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:17 am to drizztiger
Because that’s how it was originally reported.
£180 million =/= $180 million
Feel better ?
£180 million =/= $180 million
Feel better ?
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 11:18 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:29 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Feel better ?
I"m indifferent, as I and likely everyone else with a brain was well aware that this show wasn't a success financially, and that these reported numbers are all made up anyway and don't have a ton of accuracy, but thanks for letting us know the made up numbers were 33% off due to being reported in pounds instead of USD.
Do you feel better letting us know this?
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:58 pm to TeddyPadillac
yes it's nice to dunk on the resident wokesters
Posted on 9/25/24 at 4:48 pm to TeddyPadillac
I do. Because it’s further proof Lucas Films have no clue what they’re doing. How the investors keep allowing this shite to continue baffles the mind. They aren’t at the forefront of any societal change, which clearly is the point of DEIing up their projects.
And the creative head of Disney animation, Jennifer Lee, just got the ax as well.
Why? Inside Out2 was a massive success. But thanks in large part because they removed ’muh alphabet representation’ & just made a good movie that all could enjoy. Not just weirdos who want to sexualize a kid’s story.
This shite is real and it’s having real world consequences. Like it or not.
(And I see there's at least one weirdo who doesn't like it. )
And the creative head of Disney animation, Jennifer Lee, just got the ax as well.
Why? Inside Out2 was a massive success. But thanks in large part because they removed ’muh alphabet representation’ & just made a good movie that all could enjoy. Not just weirdos who want to sexualize a kid’s story.
This shite is real and it’s having real world consequences. Like it or not.
(And I see there's at least one weirdo who doesn't like it.
)This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 6:37 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Now tell me that Lucas films isn’t actually a massive money laundering scheme.
-SEK
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I do. Because it’s further proof Lucas Films have no clue what they’re doing.
-SEK a few posts later
The numbers are all made up anyway. Just like how Return of the Jedi never turned a profit.
You know they are fudging them as you admitted in the first post "it's a money laundering scheme" yet you still use those made up numbers as proof that they don't know what they're doing haha
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 6:55 pm to Corinthians420
You’re still melting over this dogshit show? Obedient little NPC aren’t we?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:11 pm to Madking
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You’re still melting over this dogshit show? Obedient little NPC aren’t we?
You're not going after the guy who necroed a thread so he could dunk on a canceled show that very few people here seemed to like?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:24 pm to Madking
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You’re still melting over this dogshit show?
why would i melt over a tv show? if i didn't like it, i just wouldn't watch.
it seems some of you are incapable of doing the same.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:34 pm to Madking
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You’re still melting over this dogshit show? Obedient little NPC aren’t we?
They really want people to stop noticing.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:48 pm to Corinthians420
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yet you still use those made up numbers
Made up numbers which are allegedly the official numbers as required by British law? The numbers which investors are supposed to rely on to gauge their decisions? OK, I guess?
Not sure how these points make your case, but duly noted.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 1:17 am
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:35 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Made up numbers which are allegedly the official numbers as required by British law? The numbers which investors are supposed to rely on to gauge their decisions? OK, I guess?
Explain how you come up with a number to show a streaming tv show made or lost money.
The only thing that is known is how much it cost to make.
whether 200,000 people watched it or 1,000,000 did, what does that matter financially for a streaming show that had no commercials?
Did the show make more people sign up to D+ or drop it? How the hell would they quantify that?
Is there a general number assigned to every D+ streaming show saying this is your "revenue" for this show, just so they have some means of showing profit/loss, even though the show cannot actually produce any revenue b/c it's viewers or lack of viewers were already paying a subscription to D+ and no one paid extra to watch this show?
Do you not see how this $230M in losses seems made up? I have no idea how they quantify how a streaming show made money. The point of the show is to keep viewers interested in your streaming platform. You make enough shows that dont' keep their interest, and you start losing subscriptions, or you continue to make good shows and keep your subscription revenue.
Disney went the other way though I see now, as they have made the stanadard subscription full of fricking commercials, and i'm not paying $25/month for no commercials with them. I cancelled last week and i'll just go back to illegally download the shows i want to watch from them. Making your customers pay to watch your shows, then make them watch ads (which is also paying D+ to advertise) is a shitty way to treat your customer. Adding ads should lower the consumers subscription cost, yet D+ is raising their prices this month from 14.99 to 16.99, while adding ads to their shows.
Now that they have ads, then the number of people that watch a show will actually matter to it's revenue, as that number will provide a different cost to the advertisers, but that wasn't the case with the Acoshyte b/c it didn't have ads.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:31 am to TeddyPadillac
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Explain how you come up with a number to show a streaming tv show made or lost money.
I never claimed the latter, but it doesn’t take an industry guru (which I’ve never claimed to be) to do comparative analysis.
These numbers spent for RoP, Dial of Destiny, & The Acolyte are unsustainable.
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The only thing that is known is how much it cost to make.
They even lied about that.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:04 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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I never claimed the latter, but it doesn’t take an industry guru (which I’ve never claimed to be) to do comparative analysis.
comparative analysis of what? what are you talking about?
You cited that the show lost $230M. I don't know how that's quantifiable through a stremaing service, hence why these numbers you cited mean nothign to anyone wtih a brain.
The show sucked arse, and was cancelled b/c of it. There's not much more to say about it. Move on guy that didn't even watch the fricking show.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:19 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Made up numbers which are allegedly the official numbers as required by British law? The numbers which investors are supposed to rely on to gauge their decisions? OK, I guess?
And the official numbers are manipulated by Disney to show the biggest loss they can. Unless you have a breakdown where every dollar was spent you arent getting an actual picture of how much the show cost them to make, you are getting the number they wanna claim.
Disney streaming services claimed a profit last year so they had a reason to wanna inflate their expenses on shows to lower their tax bill.
I'll quote an old post explaining how they accomplish this.
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Studios inflate production budgets so it appears the films lose money in order to cut out investors/producers/etc from net profit participation. The studios make their money on distribution and by charging exorbitant rates. A lot of money goes from one pocket to the other of the same company at these exorbitant rates. Here's how to cut:
- Studios charge production overhead fees in excess of 35% reducing significantly the amount of money spent on the actual production
- Studios charge interest in excess of 20% on all expenses incurred in development, production and development
- Producers are required by the studio to contract with vendors they either partially own or have pre-negotiated rates with the studios
- Example, Technicolor pays Universal $25 million at the beginning of the year to be the exclusive lab for all Universal productions. Then Technicolor charges inflated rates to Universal. The $25 million offsets this and the result is the production budget is artificially (i.e. criminally) inflated.
Same things happens with marketing. The studios will advertise a film through their TV network, all while controlling the prices and limiting net profit participation for the outside investors and producers.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:21 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Now tell me that Lucas films isn’t actually a massive money laundering scheme.
Only thing I will add is what I have always said; Hollywood is absolutely a money laundering scheme. They pay themselves and write it off as both expenses and revenue depending on what bucket they want to put it in. They move all this money around to get tax breaks and write offs that we as taxpayers are having to write the checks for.
One second they are bragging about making all this money while going to the government with their hands out acting like they lost their shirt.
A producer use to be the person fronting the money to make the film. Now it's a glorified title used to give kick backs to people.
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