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re: The Bad Batch Official Season One Discussion Thread
Posted on 8/14/21 at 5:07 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Posted on 8/14/21 at 5:07 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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rebooting everything post ROTJ. They were testing the waters with a new Luke, and they saw the response. People will accept someone else playing Luke (Sebastian Stan is already in house), Leia, and Han (just don’t use that guy from Solo, maybe let Bradley Cooper give it a try) and they’ll accept them rebooting 7-9 with the Rebels/Clone War group. Thrawn can be the big bad.
Disney is never ever going to dump the sequels. They have far too much invested in them to justify dumping them and in their eyes, admitting they were wrong would damage their credibility and that is something mega corporations like Disney absolutely hate doing and will avoid at all costs.
However, they will likely ignore the sequels entirely and release no further media content about them like TV shows, animated shows, video games, and so on. Just basically drift into obscurity.
Short of new leadership happening at Disney or George Lucas reassuming sole control of the franchise, the sequels are permanent canon.
With that said, I agree with you. They need to dump the sequels from canon because they are poison to all existing star wars content including the show this thread is about, The Bad Batch, because of what the next 50 years beyond the prequel era lead up to.
Even when you're watching shows and movies as good as Rogue One, Clone Wars, Bad Batch and Mandalorian, it still feels futile in the back of your mind because you know how it all ends for them with the shitty sequel trilogy.
And that's keeping the Star Wars franchise in a state of paralysis and rot. It needs a sequel trilogy that serves a great endpoint and something the fanbase has great confidence in and absolutely loves.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 5:17 pm
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Posted on 8/14/21 at 5:24 pm to Esquire
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Filoni is doing what he does best. Using his shows to fix problems with the movies.
That's basically putting lipstick on a pig and doesn't erase the failures of the sequels.
The prequels may have been clunky and poorly executed but they still spawned a lot of media in animated series, video games and even live action shows as well with the upcoming Obi-Wan series.
There is nothing out there for the sequels besides the resistance series and that was a flaming dumpster fire.
The sequels are the biggest and only rot in Star Wars and the franchise won't improve until they're cut loose.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 8:17 am to stlslick
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Would of been nice to leave a cliff hanger for next season.
At first I would agree but after watching it again with the kids like the way it ended. They can go so many different directions now instead of the whole season already being setup from a cliffhanger in the finale.
With the ones in charge for this series I am very excited and hopeful for the next season.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 8:22 am to Sentrius
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However, they will likely ignore the sequels entirely and release no further media content about them like TV shows, animated shows, video games, and so on. Just basically drift into obscurity.
Short of new leadership happening at Disney or George Lucas reassuming sole control of the franchise, the sequels are permanent canon.
I hope that is the direction. Basically ignore the sequels and allow live action and animated shows extend out from the ROTJ. Create more stand alone like Rogue One during the time period and eventually the sequels can become some support for the new stuff and nothing more.
The prequels were not the greatest either but future media based off of them was really good and made them more enjoyable when watching them again.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 8:23 am to TideWarrior
For the record I could care less if they ever release another movie. Just keep making shows and animated series while incorporating some of the stuff that originated in Legends like Thrawn.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 8:42 am to Sentrius
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However, they will likely ignore the sequels entirely and release no further media content about them like TV shows, animated shows, video games, and so on. Just basically drift into obscurity
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Disney is never ever going to dump the sequels
This is exactly how they are going to dump them. The Mouse has no problem ignoring its own failures.
Plus Filoni has already laid the groundwork for changing it with the World between Worlds. The won’t have to “wipe it out” as much as create a new timeline. Basically they are going to make the sequels (and Resistance) into the new Legends series.
We already know the Mouse is willing to dabble in alternate universe and audiences will accept it so there you go.
I will say though, if anyone can shine the Sequel turds, it would be Dave. I just don’t think he wants to.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:10 am to TheeRealCarolina
I feel like The Bad Batch and The Mandalorian may just be trying to save or polish up the sequels. Both shows seem to have a lot of focus on cloning/creating special (possibly force-sensitive) clones. It seems like they might be doing this to try to explain how Palpatine/Sidious could be alive for the ridiculous story of Rise of Skywalker given the fact that we spent 6 movies making Anakin the Chosen One and destroyer of the Sith only to bring the person he had to kill back.
If that ends up being the main purpose of these shows, I will be greatly disappointed.
If that ends up being the main purpose of these shows, I will be greatly disappointed.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:10 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:55 am to Sentrius
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There is nothing out there for the sequels besides the resistance series and that was a flaming dumpster fire.
And some billion dollar amusement parks designed around the sequels. As much as I want to the sequels to go away, they aren’t. Best to accept it now and let Filoni give that pig a full makeover.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:58 am to Esquire
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And some billion dollar amusement parks designed around the sequels
Ehhh.
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As much as I want to the sequels to go away, they aren’t.
They are ignoring that period for a reason. It’s going bye bye.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:30 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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They are ignoring that period for a reason. It’s going bye bye.
They have devoted the overall plot line in two shows to set up the Empire’s cloning program. I’m sure we will get some hints in Andor as well. It’s not going anywhere.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:27 am to PsychTiger
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Series Finale was decent, but predictable.
Truth. The penultimate episode was better. Still enjoyed the overall product.
The Finale felt more like a penultimate episode rather than a finale. As was mentioned very predictable. I was hoping for some big reveal that would tee-up the next season. I was expecting more information about Omega than we were given.
It was a good finale but anticlimactic.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 9:04 am to CU_Tigers4life
Exactly. Other than getting some great scenes of the old team working together to survive, we really didn’t get anything else worth writing home about
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:51 pm to kingbob
Did y'all catch that place was Mt Tanis? Planet Wayland?
Thrawn trilogy is coming boys!
Thrawn trilogy is coming boys!
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:34 pm to MaroonMonsoon
Homeboy is arriving in Ahsoka so that makes sense. Gideon was working for someone.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:21 pm to TheeRealCarolina
Just finished bingeing the season. It was decent, not as good as the Clone Wars but will continue to watch.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 7:48 pm to CU_Tigers4life
The finale wasnt predictable to me. Just simple. Usually people predict a finale to be big, have some revelation, some huge event unfold, or a major character death. The big, big event happened at the end of episode 15, and they just focused on the Batch and Crosshair. Then they gave the Mount Tantis tease with Nala Se.
I saw most people (not here) assume that someone was gonna die between Hunter and Crossshair, Crosshair would change sides, etc. But neither really happened. Will Crosshair change eventually? Likely. But he didnt do it in the finale.
I saw most people (not here) assume that someone was gonna die between Hunter and Crossshair, Crosshair would change sides, etc. But neither really happened. Will Crosshair change eventually? Likely. But he didnt do it in the finale.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:18 pm to hth52
People may not have gotten a plot fill, but the cinematography, sound design, and animation was on point in the finale.
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