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re: Creed tour
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:26 am to Relham10
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:26 am to Relham10
Agreed about Daughtry's mix - he sounded great but was drowned out by the bass drum. Thought they would fix it after first two songs but nope. I do like the heavier sound he's going with now.
Bass drum and toms were set to "brown note" level
Bass drum and toms were set to "brown note" level
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:03 pm to Mr Make Believe
Our prayers have been answered
Jul. 26 - New Orleans, LA - Smoothie King Center – 3DD/MWVH
CREED Announces July/August 2025 North American Tour With 3 DOORS DOWN, DAUGHTRY, BIG WRECK And MAMMOTH WVH
Jul. 26 - New Orleans, LA - Smoothie King Center – 3DD/MWVH
CREED Announces July/August 2025 North American Tour With 3 DOORS DOWN, DAUGHTRY, BIG WRECK And MAMMOTH WVH
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:16 pm to danilo
If only 106.7 The End was around to promote this show.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:33 pm to danilo
quote:
Our prayers have been answered
Jul. 26 - New Orleans, LA - Smoothie King Center – 3DD/MWVH
Saw Creed last time they played NOLA, great show .
I’ll be at this one as well
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:56 pm to The Dunder Mifflin
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For alter bridge, I think it’s opposite. Tremonti is overrated
You are the first person I have ever heard say Mark Tremonti is over rated in any capacity
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:09 pm to rphtx
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Mark Tremonti is an underrated guitar genius.
He is a great guitarist, but as far as underrated its his vocals, he can bang out some Sinatra...
MT sings Sinatra
Outstanding!
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:42 am to MaxxPain2
I’m not sure he fits in the genius category with Hendrix & Eddie. However, he is a solid player with a strong career.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:15 pm to Mr Make Believe
Anyone going to check them out this summer?
Seeing them with daughtry and Mammoth.
Excited and bringing my 10 year old boy for his first show.
Seeing them with daughtry and Mammoth.
Excited and bringing my 10 year old boy for his first show.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 4:24 am to GatorPA84
Saw them in Raleigh last year, I’d go again but they’re not coming close this time around.
Also, they need to quit dicking around and release a single or something. I know the other guys have Alter Bridge but damn, you’re legit selling out arenas with Creed. The people have spoken. Give them what they want!
Also, they need to quit dicking around and release a single or something. I know the other guys have Alter Bridge but damn, you’re legit selling out arenas with Creed. The people have spoken. Give them what they want!
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:59 am to facelessman07
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Also, they need to quit dicking around and release a single or something. I know the other guys have Alter Bridge but damn, you’re legit selling out arenas with Creed. The people have spoken. Give them what they want!
For a band like Creed, there's no money in making new music. They are playing arenas and selling out (for now at least) because of music they put out 25 years ago.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:02 am to SUB
quote:
For a band like Creed, there's no money in making new music. They are playing arenas and selling out (for now at least) because of music they put out 25 years ago.
When I go see a classic rock band, the absolute last thing I want to hear is "here is a song from our new album."
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:41 pm to facelessman07
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Also, they need to quit dicking around and release a single or something. I know the other guys have Alter Bridge but damn, you’re legit selling out arenas with Creed. The people have spoken. Give them what they want!
I am paying to go to a Creed show (I'm not really, but you can insert any band from my era...grew up in the 90s and graduated high school in 03) to see them play the songs that I remember from my childhood.
Also, I'm going to make a broad-brush generalization here that is my opinion...and my opinion only, but I think musicians generally become shittier song writers as they get older. Maybe "shittier" is the wrong term, but I don't think the material is as interesting as it is when they are younger. Maybe a new Creed album would be good, but I doubt it would be as good as their first 3 albums, and I certainly wouldn't want to attend a live show that prioritized marketing the new stuff over their old hits.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:52 pm to VinegarStrokes
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Also, I'm going to make a broad-brush generalization here that is my opinion...and my opinion only, but I think musicians generally become shittier song writers as they get older. Maybe "shittier" is the wrong term, but I don't think the material is as interesting as it is when they are younger. Maybe a new Creed album would be good, but I doubt it would be as good as their first 3 albums, and I certainly wouldn't want to attend a live show that prioritized marketing the new stuff over their old hits.
This statement right here is exactly why Tremonti will never truly be overrated in anything. He's 30+ years into this gig and still putting out great tunes with multiple projects. Do they all have the nostalgia hit of "Higher" or "One Last Breath"? No. But...in many cases, he is putting out better songs now than his early career....which is, to quoted posters point, extremely rare.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 4:29 pm to VinegarStrokes
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Also, I'm going to make a broad-brush generalization here that is my opinion...and my opinion only, but I think musicians generally become shittier song writers as they get older.
You have your entire life to write your first album. It's usually going to have all of your best stuff on it that you've written so far. You have 9-18 months to write the material for each subsequent album. The second one will likely still be good because you're still burning off old inventory. By the third one, the band is either completely gassed or their creative fruit is damn near squeezed dry. The number of bands that continued to constitantly put out quality studio albums beyond their third one are pretty rare.
As for the aging side of things, I can attest that there are 3 factors that I think help make a good songwriter great:
1. emotional honesty
2. musical skill
3. emotional depth
As artists age, their musical skill usually continues to increase for a long time. They might not plateau as an instrumentalist until their 40's or 50's. So, they should continue getting better right? Nah, not really. Emotional depth (how strong your connection is to your emotions) and emotional honesty (how genuine your expression is of your true feelings) sorta peaks in your late teens/early twenties.
The first heartbreaks as a teenager are VIVID. First love is unbelievably powerful. It's far easier for teens to tap into raw emotions because they don't have enough scars, nor have they become jaded enough, to have developed a healthy filter. The more healthy your emotional range is, the less useful it is for songwriting. Deep wells of nearly uncontrollable emotion being expressed with true sincerity makes for great music. Time tends to mellow most people out. The 10th time you get your heart broken doesn't hurt as much as the first time. While the love you might feel for a spouse you meet at 30 might be more consistent and healthy than the love for your high school girlfriend, but it's not prone to the same kinds of idealization and wild swings that make for a great song.
In addition, positive emotions simply aren't as useful for songwriting as negative emotions. From personal experience, there's a weird "hole" in my discography. While I have only released music a few times, I have been consistently writing songs since I was 17. Yet, there's this weird gap for a few years from 2012-2014 where I don't think I wrote a single song. 3 years of my lower twenties bereft of bangers. Why? I was happy! I was in a solid committed relationship with minimal drama, I was either in school or making good money in my career. I wasn't hungry, I wasn't angsty, I wasn't immersed in drama, I was pretty much just enjoying a stable life. When my life hits the fan, I see huge bursts of creativity. The saddest and most difficult time periods of my life produced the most music. The more poor, sad, lonely, angry, and heartbroken I was, the more music was written, and the more QUALITY music was written. While this is all personal anecdote, I don't think it's an uncommon phenomenon among musicians.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 7/14/25 at 6:45 pm to kingbob
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You have your entire life to write your first album. It's usually going to have all of your best stuff on it that you've written so far. You have 9-18 months to write the material for each subsequent album. The second one will likely still be good because you're still burning off old inventory. By the third one, the band is either completely gassed or their creative fruit is damn near squeezed dry. The number of bands that continued to constitantly put out quality studio albums beyond their third one are pretty rare. As for the aging side of things, I can attest that there are 3 factors that I think help make a good songwriter great: 1. emotional honesty 2. musical skill 3. emotional depth As artists age, their musical skill usually continues to increase for a long time. They might not plateau as an instrumentalist until their 40's or 50's. So, they should continue getting better right? Nah, not really. Emotional depth (how strong your connection is to your emotions) and emotional honesty (how genuine your expression is of your true feelings) sorta peaks in your late teens/early twenties. The first heartbreaks as a teenager are VIVID. First love is unbelievably powerful. It's far easier for teens to tap into raw emotions because they don't have enough scars, nor have they become jaded enough, to have developed a healthy filter. The more healthy your emotional range is, the less useful it is for songwriting. Deep wells of nearly uncontrollable emotion being expressed with true sincerity makes for great music. Time tends to mellow most people out. The 10th time you get your heart broken doesn't hurt as much as the first time. While the love you might feel for a spouse you meet at 30 might be more consistent and healthy than the love for your high school girlfriend, but it's not prone to the same kinds of idealization and wild swings that make for a great song. In addition, positive emotions simply aren't as useful for songwriting as negative emotions. From personal experience, there's a weird "hole" in my discography. While I have only released music a few times, I have been consistently writing songs since I was 17. Yet, there's this weird gap for a few years from 2012-2014 where I don't think I wrote a single song. 3 years of my lower twenties bereft of bangers. Why? I was happy! I was in a solid committed relationship with minimal drama, I was either in school or making good money in my career. I wasn't hungry, I wasn't angsty, I wasn't immersed in drama, I was pretty much just enjoying a stable life. When my life hits the fan, I see huge bursts of creativity. The saddest and most difficult time periods of my life produced the most music. The more poor, sad, lonely, angry, and heartbroken I was, the more music was written, and the more QUALITY music was written. While this is all personal anecdote, I don't think it's an uncommon phenomenon among musicians.
You perfectly encapsulated my thoughts on the matter. Didn’t go into that depth because it wasn’t really relevant to the thread, but your are spot on
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:07 pm to kingbob
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In addition, positive emotions simply aren't as useful for songwriting as negative emotions. From personal experience, there's a weird "hole" in my discography. While I have only released music a few times, I have been consistently writing songs since I was 17. Yet, there's this weird gap for a few years from 2012-2014 where I don't think I wrote a single song. 3 years of my lower twenties bereft of bangers. Why? I was happy! I was in a solid committed relationship with minimal drama, I was either in school or making good money in my career. I wasn't hungry, I wasn't angsty, I wasn't immersed in drama, I was pretty much just enjoying a stable life. When my life hits the fan, I see huge bursts of creativity. The saddest and most difficult time periods of my life produced the most music. The more poor, sad, lonely, angry, and heartbroken I was, the more music was written, and the more QUALITY music was written. While this is all personal anecdote, I don't think it's an uncommon phenomenon among musicians.
Seems like a massive exception to this is The Beatles. They were not "through their inventory" by album 3. Rather, they were just getting started.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:43 pm to Big Scrub TX
The Beatles are definitely an exception, but remember a few things:
1. They were only a band for 6 years. Few bands would have actually made it to their third album in that time.
2. A lot of their early albums were stacked with covers.
With that said, the Beatles were some of the most prolific songwriters of all time. Their ability to right short, catchy songs in volume, with quality, extremely fast is straight up legendary. They're arguably the best to ever do it. Comparing most bands' discography to the Beatles is like comparing the longevity of most NFL running backs to Frank Gore or Derek Henry.
1. They were only a band for 6 years. Few bands would have actually made it to their third album in that time.
2. A lot of their early albums were stacked with covers.
With that said, the Beatles were some of the most prolific songwriters of all time. Their ability to right short, catchy songs in volume, with quality, extremely fast is straight up legendary. They're arguably the best to ever do it. Comparing most bands' discography to the Beatles is like comparing the longevity of most NFL running backs to Frank Gore or Derek Henry.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 7/15/25 at 9:17 am to kingbob
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They were only a band for 6 years.
10 years, but they didn’t put out an album until 3 years or so after starting the band.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:20 am to SUB
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:13 pm to kingbob
quote:7 at least
. They were only a band for 6 years.
quote:That's the point. They were actually prolific.
Few bands would have actually made it to their third album in that time.
quote:The first 2 albums, 11 out of 28 were covers. That's still 17 originals. Then came A Hard Days Night, and that was 13 originals! That is to say, 30 originals in only 2 years. And they were barely getting started.
A lot of their early albums were stacked with covers.
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