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re: The Conversation - Hank Jr. and Waylon
Posted on 8/21/22 at 11:26 am to DiamondDog
Posted on 8/21/22 at 11:26 am to DiamondDog
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Hank Williams was a drunk and a weak man. Couldn't get his crap together and it killed him.
Not his fault he was born a gump.
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Posted on 8/21/22 at 11:33 am to Basura Blanco
Is Coe the country equivalent of Keith Richards?
Posted on 8/21/22 at 11:49 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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Never listened to either much. Which one should I start with? Btw I don't like George Jones. He's too sad
I will be in the minority here, but Hank Jr. in his prime was my preference. He had a more limited run of great albums from Whiskey Bent and Hell Bound in 1979 thru Major Moves in 1984. Outlaw Women on the '79 album and Mr. Lincoln on the '84 record are two of the lesser known tracks and are some of his best work in my opinion.
Waylon Jennings was fantastic as well, had much greater staying power and is more universally regarded as a much better performer so you should probably start there. The box set mentioned earlier is outstanding.
Waylon Jennings box set
Posted on 8/21/22 at 11:59 am to Basura Blanco
I hope that the train
From Caribou, Maine
Runs over your new love affair
And you walk the floor
From door to door
And pull out your peroxide hair
You never was my woman
Cause you were never true
So all in all
If the curtain should fall
Lord, I hope that it falls on you
I will have sweet, sweet, sweet mental revenge
ETA: And then there's Cedar Town, Georgia.
From Caribou, Maine
Runs over your new love affair
And you walk the floor
From door to door
And pull out your peroxide hair
You never was my woman
Cause you were never true
So all in all
If the curtain should fall
Lord, I hope that it falls on you
I will have sweet, sweet, sweet mental revenge
ETA: And then there's Cedar Town, Georgia.
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 8/21/22 at 12:18 pm to Tall Tiger
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Nashville Rebel box set is essential, as is the 2 disc Waylon Live set with all the extra tracks that were left off the original 1974 LP to get it onto just one record.
This. I have both. If they were vinyl, I would have run a needle through them several times over.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 12:26 pm to Basura Blanco
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I will be in the minority here, but Hank Jr. in his prime was my preference.
The Hank, Jr. album stretch from Bocephus to Major Moves is my favorite of his. His just post-falling off the mountain albums are the best. He steps out from his father’s shadow and comes into his own during that time.
Maybe little known fact: Mrs. Audrey made Waylon promise to keep an eye on Hank, Jr. when Hank, Jr. was getting started.
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 8/21/22 at 12:39 pm to DownSouthJukin
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The Hank, Jr. album stretch from Bocephus to Major Moves is my favorite if his. His just post-falling off the mountain albums are the best. He steps out from his father’s shadow and comes into his own during that time.
All in Alabama is one of my favorites of his.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 1:09 pm to LegendInMyMind
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All in Alabama is one of my favorites of his.
Yep. And New South-the song and the entire album.
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 8/21/22 at 1:15 pm to muttenstein
From that era, I prefer Waylon and Merle. Though not Outlaws, Don Williams and Glen Campbell are more my speed.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 1:50 pm to Bamafig
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Glen Campbell are more my speed.
Glen Campbell might be the most underrated country artist of all-time. Extraordinary guitar player, one of the best in history across any genre of music.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 1:57 pm to Basura Blanco
DAC is name a lot people don't even recognize - which is gdam shame - guy never got the credit he deserved. He's up there on my Mt. Rushmore of country along with George Straight and Hank Williams Jr. Depending on the day and mood I can listen to pretty much their entire libraries and nobody else ever complains.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 2:14 pm to muttenstein
I am a huge fan of Hank Jr. and for some reason I never liked this song.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 2:16 pm to cable
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DAC is name a lot people don't even recognize - which is gdam shame - guy never got the credit he deserved. He's up there on my Mt. Rushmore of country along with George Straight and Hank Williams Jr. Depending on the day and mood I can listen to pretty much their entire libraries and nobody else ever complains.
I like DAC and even have his Xrated tape, but lets not get crazy here. He isn't in the same league as Jr and George.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 3:49 pm to cable
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DAC is name a lot people don't even recognize - which is gdam shame - guy never got the credit he deserved. He's up there on my Mt. Rushmore of country along with George Straight and Hank Williams Jr. Depending on the day and mood I can listen to pretty much their entire libraries and nobody else ever complains.
If DAC wasn't one of the shittiest human beings to walk the face of the planet he would probably get more recognition, and that has nothing at all to with his XXX songs/album.
When you spend a decent stretch of your life living in a Tennessee cave in order to avoid paying child support, you're probably a piece of shite. When you literally can't go to certain states because of warrants, and your livelihood is dependent upon traveling, you're probably a piece of shite. When you've lived so long and been such a pile of garbage for so long the only gigs you can get are backyards, dive bars, and barn shows, you're probably a piece of shite. When, despite having written a catalog of great songs, your contemporaries who have recorded them won't even acknowledge your existence, you're probably a piece of shite. When you fancy yourself an "outlaw", and the Outlaws Motorcycle Club may or may not have had a hit out on you for a decade or so, you're probably a piece of shite.
He's owned it, I will give him that, though.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 3:51 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I like DAC and even have his Xrated tape, but lets not get crazy here. He isn't in the same league as Jr and George.
As a songwriter he arguably is in their league. As a human being, nowhere close.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 5:17 pm to Basura Blanco
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And the potential for an absolute train wreck of epic proportions when he preformed live. So, basically the epitome of country music.
I think I have been to 3 Hank Jr. concerts where he was so wasted that he could barely finish the set. One time I think he was so fricked up they brought him a stool, that he fell off of. The good thing is his band could cover for him and everybody knew the lyrics so that usually helped him as he stuttered through each song.
Although before my time of really following Hank Jr, he married a girl from Oak Ridge, LA. I think she went to LSU. My female cousin who is about 7 or 8 years older than me (I am 50) was ate up with him. We are from Monroe and she knew his wife before she married Hank Jr. It was a rumor that the only reason Hank married her was her dad had a ton of duck hunting property around Oak Ridge.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 6:28 pm to muttenstein
Anyone know if that bar is still open?
Posted on 8/21/22 at 6:58 pm to DiamondDog
Diamond has no flaws. Congratulations
Posted on 8/21/22 at 10:08 pm to Basura Blanco
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Of course he was a degenerate. I know these guys were a generation later but Waylon Jennings did enough coke to make Bolivia take notice. Willie Nelson was so damn stoned, he forgot to pay taxes for a decade. George Jones was so consistently drunk he was as likely to no show a concert as he was to show up. And when he did he was drunk off his arse. Johnny Cash doubled down on everything above. And more. And David Allen Coe doubled down on THAT and wouldve made Motley Crue look like choir boys.
Hank Williams pretty much made being a degenerate a pre-requisite to be a C&W star in the 70's.
I got DV'd to hell, but whatever. I stand by my claim Hank Sr. was a degenerate addict.(And womanizer)
Guess I didn't make clear enough the fact that he is truly a legendary artist and still influences country music today. "Midnight in Montgomery" and "The Ride" are two of my favorite songs... ever.
Hell the thread title song addresses the man's flaws.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:39 pm to HerkFlyer
Huge Jr fan here. His stretch of albums from Hank Jr and Friends thru Out of Left Field in '96 are unmatched. 20 years of mostly self penned music is almost unheard of. The video for The Conversation is classic Hank. Strong Stuff for sure!
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