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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:06 pm to
LaVine primarily role on this roster would be to help score the ball. Jrue is one man, Zion a rookie and ain't much else to depend on at the moment post AD.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:06 pm to
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Bc we aren’t going to be big players in FA this year. The last year of an expiring deal is the most valuable. I mean if we could just waive him then sure.

But allowing a team to convince us that “taking him” this year in lieu of giving us an asset is a good deal would be incredibly shortsighted.

If he had 4 years on the deal? Sure
Has nothing to do with FA in that proposed deal. A salary is need to balance the deal and his expiring does that. Now, whether that proposed deal is worth it is another story.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:07 pm to
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He put up nice stats last year on a very bad team.

His whole career with good stats on bad teams, not necessarily his fault though. He's also been racking up some injuries the last few years.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Bc we aren’t going to be big players in FA this year. The last year of an expiring deal is the most valuable. I mean if we could just waive him then sure.

But allowing a team to convince us that “taking him” this year in lieu of giving us an asset is a good deal would be incredibly shortsighted.

If he had 4 years on the deal? Sure



As recently as a year or two ago, weren’t expiring contracts like Hill’s considered to be an asset?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:09 pm to
How is salary needed to balance that?

We are sending out $27m in AD to LA to start with. LA is sending out probably $15-20m in salary between us and Chicago. Chicago is sending out $20m in LaVine and taking less than that back in Ball and the pick.


Salary matching happens when teams are over the cap and taking on more money, not when they are taking on less money.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:10 pm to
If that’s the only reason hill is included then I’m fine with it. But every proposed trade where another team takes Hill it’s always phrased as the other team doing us a big favor by taking his K off our books this year.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13571 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:11 pm to
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LaVine primarily role on this roster would be to help score the ball. Jrue is one man, Zion a rookie and ain't much else to depend on at the moment post AD.

So how does that make him better than McCollum?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
177155 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:12 pm to
Lavine had higher:
PER
ppg
FG%
3p% nearly identical last year
younger
locked in longer contract (pretty sure)
Posted by barbapapa
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:12 pm to
I don’t think this will be the deal. Hope not at least
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:16 pm to
I trust griffin and Langdon no matter what the deal may be so I won’t completely melt
Posted by Saintsntigers04
Member since Jun 2015
593 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:21 pm to
an argument that you put up stats on a bad team is kind of ridiculous. you're not playing your own team when you're putting out them stats. You can maybe argue that his minutes were really high and I helped inflate his stats a little bit
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:22 pm to
You could put up the argument that Chicago is getting the two best assets (aside from AD) in that deal.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8867 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:22 pm to
I mean yeah if this ends up being the deal I’m going to assume Beal and Tatum were ungettable. Or maybe literally all Boston was offering was Tatum. And that after doing research and analysis they feel Lavine is a better fit with Zion and Jrue and has better long term potential than Ingram.


Which isn’t an unreasonable take. The 7th pick in this draft is really no worse than the 4th. I’d like an additional lakers first round pick, but Lebron is old plus AD and BI are injury prone. They could be bad in 2021.

Hart and Kuzma....nothing that exciting. But they’re real nba players on decent K’s.

It’s not as sexy as what we’ve been imagining, but it comes to close to everything griffin wanted. Lavine as the young borderline all star, Kuzma with potential, Hart as a nice rotation player, one pretty high lottery pick, and another unprotected first rounder
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Markkanen, Porter, Lakers 2021 unprotected 1st,Ingram and Hart to the Pelicans


I made a few changes
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13571 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:25 pm to
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an argument that you put up stats on a bad team is kind of ridiculous. you're not playing your own team when you're putting out them stats. You can maybe argue that his minutes were really high and I helped inflate his stats a little bit

Because there are not many other scoring options or other players to take the ball out of his hands.
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
12993 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:25 pm to
I’d honestly rather LaVine than Porter. It I’d take that deal. Markkanen is legit
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8345 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:28 pm to
I figured removing their 7th pick and Lavine gave us a better chance and Markkanen and another player. The Bulls seem to value Lavine a good bit. Plus Porter is a SF who can shoot threes. Those are leprechauns down here.

It’s not gonna happen though

ETA: frick a 2020 pick, I want as many 2021’s as humanly possible
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 4:31 pm
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13571 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:36 pm to
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The Bulls seem to value Lavine a good bit.
Not sure. There were rumors last year that they were already looking to get out from his contract.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30062 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:41 pm to
First time I’ve felt the need to say this.
I’d rather keep AD then do that Lakers Bull deal. I’m pretty sure I’d actually vomit if that happened.
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
3474 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 4:43 pm to

Markkanen, Porter, Lakers 2021 unprotected 1st,Ingram and Hart to the Pelicans

One more unprotected 1st and I would do
That deal...lol
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 5:49 pm
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