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re: Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:46 am to LtKumar
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:46 am to LtKumar
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Tyler Honeycutt
people are mentioning PG13 and LBJ and You are giving them Honeycutt???
Tyler makes sense for Pels. There are not many available cheap wings.
Worth a shot for a Miller-type deal (hopefully less).
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:37 am to pawel
It kind of seems like things are lining up for LeBron and Paul George to the Lakers. If that does happen hopefully it happens fast. That shuts down a location for Boogie. Maybe it shuts down 2 Boogie chasers, because if I'm Dallas and you have Golden State, Houston, and the Lakers all as strong contenders in the west, you really should blow it up and rebuild to adjust your timeline than build around a team with Harrison Barnes and Boogie as your best players.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 8:48 am to TigerinATL
I won't believe there is a possibility of Cousins going to Dallas until i hear it from Carlisle's mouth.
If Lebron goes to LA, then Cleveland is blowing it up. I'll gladly take Kyle Korver from them. If there's a way to throw Ajinca at them for him, i'd be all for it. I'm sure they would want a pick for it, but not sure if i'd give up a first for Kyle, even though he does have 2 years left on his contract.
If Lebron goes to LA, then Cleveland is blowing it up. I'll gladly take Kyle Korver from them. If there's a way to throw Ajinca at them for him, i'd be all for it. I'm sure they would want a pick for it, but not sure if i'd give up a first for Kyle, even though he does have 2 years left on his contract.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:06 am to TeddyPadillac
I agree that Dallas and Cousins make no sense, but they both might be desperate enough to fake interest in each other until they end up stuck together.
Korver is 37 years old. I think they'd be happy to save $1.5 million this year and whatever is guaranteed next year to turn him into Ajinca.
Korver is 37 years old. I think they'd be happy to save $1.5 million this year and whatever is guaranteed next year to turn him into Ajinca.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 9:09 am
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:17 am to TigerinATL
I just don't see why LA makes sense for LeBron from a basketball standpoint. No way LeBron/PG and guys like Ingram and Kuzma are good enough to get past either GS or Houston. If he goes to LA I think it shows he's no longer concerned with winning titles and is more focused on life after basketball.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:19 am to TigerinATL
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Korver is 37 years old. I think they'd be happy to save $1.5 million this year and whatever is guaranteed next year to turn him into Ajinca.
that's what i was hoping. give them cap space, albiet very little, but get rid of a long contract.
Kyle Korver can play for 15 minutes, take 1 shot, and have more of an impact on offense than anyone else on our team not named AD/Cousins/Jrue/Rondo.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:32 am to LesGeaux45
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No way LeBron/PG and guys like Ingram and Kuzma are good enough
Los Angeles has enough cap space and assets to clear the roster and do a Big 3 style build, especially if Paul George would opt in to the last year of his deal and come over in a trade. The only guys on the roster they probably want to keep are Kuzma and Ingram who make about $7.4 million combined. Save Randle for a S&T to another team that will serve as the outgoing salary in with the trade you make with OKC for an opted in Paul George and the Lakers would have about $22 million on the books with Ingram/Kuzma/roster holds and Randle's cap hold. That means they'd have about $80 million to spend before trading for George. They could add LeBron/CP3/Capella/George plus veteran filler if they wanted to and they'd still have Ingram/Kuzma too.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 9:33 am
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:36 am to LesGeaux45
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I just don't see why LA makes sense for LeBron from a basketball standpoint. No way LeBron/PG and guys like Ingram and Kuzma are good enough to get past either GS or Houston. If he goes to LA I think it shows he's no longer concerned with winning titles and is more focused on life after basketball.
What's the difference if he plays in shitty Cleveland and makes the finals and loses to the Warriors, or he plays in sunny LA and loses to the Warriors in the conference Finals?
And i would say that if Kuzma is the real deal, Lebron and PG can without a doubt challenge the Warriors if they can find the right guy that can play the 5 for them, and get a PG that can hit an open shot and defend. Lonzo has got to go.
Kuzma/PG/Lebron can without a doubt defend well against KD/Klay/Curry, you find a big that can defend the pick and roll with Draymond and a "PG" that can defend Iggy/Livingston.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:57 am to TeddyPadillac
Paul George is being discounted by the “why the lakers” crowd.
He would immediately be better than any recent lebron teammate and maybe any lebron teammate ever
he and PG could compete
all of this would of course put a serious crimp in the pels chances to compete
He would immediately be better than any recent lebron teammate and maybe any lebron teammate ever
he and PG could compete
all of this would of course put a serious crimp in the pels chances to compete
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 10:59 am
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:01 am to DeionDeion
Looks like it's time to pack it in guys. Golden state is making a "serious" run at AD
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:13 am to cgrand
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He would immediately be better than any recent lebron teammate and maybe any lebron teammate ever
Eh. Dwyane Wade was better, though he did fall off a cliff very quickly. But yea, PG can impact the game more than Love, Bosh or Kyrie could. If the Lakers didn't have or could get rid of Deng's contract, you'd be talking about a team that could easily get 3 legit superstars. Deng makes it a lot harder, and I think you're realistically looking at LeBron, PG and solid role players. But that's probably better than what Cleveland can offer, with the upside of much more flexibility moving forward.
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all of this would of course put a serious crimp in the pels chances to compete
I don't think the pels are competing for a championship next year regardless. I think our window is 19/20-20/21 when we can deal Solo as an expiring and have more assets to bring in better role players, also around the time the warriors will be losing Thompson/Green.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:58 am to Not Cooper
As long as all of this ends up with Lonzo and LaVar ending up in Milwaukee with a "how did we get here?" look on their faces then I'm good with it 
ETA: have we discussed this rumor posted by Bill Simmons's dad on Twitter?
ETA: have we discussed this rumor posted by Bill Simmons's dad on Twitter?
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Interesting rumor - both LeBron James and D. Cousins resign with Cleveland and NOLA respectively, and then are traded for each other. Cavs get a superstar center and James teams up with The Brow.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:51 pm to LesGeaux45
I'm all for it. I did see an interesting scenario thrown out there since Cleveland is still interested in pursuing PG:
Cavs receive: Paul George, DeMarcus Cousins, and Carmelo Anthony
Thunder receive: No. 8 overall pick, George Hill, Solomon Hill, Jordan Clarkson
Pelicans receive: Kevin Love, future first round from Cleveland, future second from OKC
I don't know why OKC would do this other than to get rid of Melo and start over with more depth. But from our perspective I'd be all for it. Love can shoot and can pass it pretty well, so he could operate like a mini Boogie. He fits better with our pace and space offense and only has two years left on his deal. It also finally gets Solo off the books. It would give us a legit squad for the next couple of years and flexibility for AD's extension.
I will also admit that I am absolutely terrified of Boogie's Achilles and would not commit long term money to him for that reason.
It obviously wouldn't happen but I could see the appeal to it.
ETA: We get a starter with all-star potential, get rid of Solo's deal, AND get a first rounder. Win, win, win
I do not see that roster working well at all for Cleveland, but it would definitely be more talented than what they trotted out this year. This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 3:32 pm to Not Cooper
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I don't think the pels are competing for a championship next year regardless. I think our window is 19/20-20/21 when we can deal Solo as an expiring and have more assets to bring in better role players, also around the time the warriors will be losing Thompson/Green.
lebon/PG lakers would not be a one or two year deal...you have to believe that james (after opting in for 2018) would then sign another 1+1 for 2019, then a full multi year max in 2020. same for PG
if they both go there, its until they both retire, with many chances to build the rest of the team
as pels fans, we most definitely do not want this
Posted on 6/12/18 at 3:47 pm to cgrand
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Hardwood Paroxysm @HPbasketball
Warriors offensive rating by opponent:
Spurs: 111.2
Pelicans: 106.8
Rockets: 111.8, mostly off Games 3 and 6
Cavaliers: 120.1!!!!!!!!
These are small sample sizes to work with, but the Pels defending the champs so well really has to make you think twice about committing a bunch of money to Cousins. I do think AD/DC has a higher ceiling than just having Cousins walk, but I really like the style of basketball they played post Boogie injury.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 4:06 pm to TigerinATL
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I do think AD/DC has a higher ceiling than just having Cousins walk, but I really like the style of basketball they played post Boogie injury.
Agree, and the injury scares me as well. I'm team S&T or 2 years less than the max. I really don't want him to just walk but I don't want a 2+1 max or worse the 5 year max. If he never gets back to the same player you have a black hole of 36 million that is unmovable right through AD's prime.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:13 pm to Not Cooper
I see no way he gets that 5 year.
I can live with a 2 year deal and that seems most likely
I can live with a 2 year deal and that seems most likely
Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:54 am to CocoLoco
just bumping so i can stop seeing LeBitch threads at the top of this board.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:35 am to cgrand
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Paul George is being discounted by the “why the lakers” crowd
It depends on if he can get back to his old shooting form. He hurt his shoulder in the second half of the year and had to alter his shooting form some, which caused him to shoot 40% from the field and 35% from 3 after January (compared to his 46% and 41% prior), not very good.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:57 pm to TigerinATL
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These are small sample sizes to work with, but the Pels defending the champs so well really has to make you think twice about committing a bunch of money to Cousins. I do think AD/DC has a higher ceiling than just having Cousins walk, but I really like the style of basketball they played post Boogie injury.
I agree with all of this. I would go forward with AD/Mirotic and attempt to make moves adding another front court player that can play about 20 minutes if needed and a competent wing player.
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