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Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7867 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:15 pm to
When we say a boatload of picks, what exactly are we saying?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128927 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 1:18 pm to
Yeah seeing that I just don't see us outbidding other teams.

Griffin has done a great job acquiring picks, but he has failed at another component that gets a star: actually having players teams want.
Posted by England_Pelican
England
Member since Apr 2018
3964 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:27 pm to
Are trades allowed now or has the deadline been and gone? And if so... when can they start again?

I want this to happen NOW!
Lonzo and 1 x 4th rounder for Beal. Perfect.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9256 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:28 pm to
And to be fair, it's still pretty early in the process. You can consider Hayes a miss at this point, but you don't usually expect to get a star player at 17 where they drafted NAW and we have no idea what we have in Kira yet.

Obviously none of the LAL or MIL picks have conveyed yet either. I guess what I'm getting at is that outside of where they drafted Hayes, it's not unsurprising that they don't have that potential cornerstone to trade.

The real disappointment I think is Lonzo. The hope would have been that he lived up to his potential and he's that centerpiece guy you can flip with multiple picks. But he's just not.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Are trades allowed now or has the deadline been and gone? And if so... when can they start again?

The trade deadline is March 25th.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30089 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Are trades allowed now or has the deadline been and gone? And if so... when can they start again?



recently signed players can't be traded until February 15th, i think. It's February something, and then the trade deadline is March 25th.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17457 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Straight up, the only way I trade for Beal is if we trade Ingram for him. That would be a good swap for both teams.


BRUH
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 4:36 pm to
What’s up baws what’s going on in here!

quote:

Just keep flinging crap against the wall and hope something sticks. Lets trade all our youth and captial to add an "all star". There is just no plan to anything we are doing. No consideration to fit or salary, how everything would work together.

Straight up, the only way I trade for Beal is if we trade Ingram for him. That would be a good swap for both teams. Otherwise, we have 4-5 players (that should be playing minutes in the league), of which 3 need to have the ball. Its a recipe for a disaster.. That isn't a good team..


This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 4:37 pm
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
8745 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 5:18 pm to
Zion, Beal, and Ingram would be as good a core as any team has.

Send
(6) first rounders (All the Mil and every LAL except the last one)
Ball
Hayes
Alexander-Walker


Receive
Beal
Bryant


Who
Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
20417 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 7:48 pm to
beal after 3 quarters tonight vs suns: 12/19 34 pts, 9 ast, 0 TO, 6 reb, 1 stl, 1 blk..trade it ALL for him
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3355 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:51 pm to
Only if he demands a trade. If he is frustrated and wants out, we wouldn’t have to give up more than we need to.


But there is Trajan Langdon garbage drafting so we should give it up all.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:52 pm to
Wizards will want 1 really promising youngster along with a shitload of picks you'd think

We don't have one of those

Plus he has a lot of salary we'd need to match
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 11:00 pm
Posted by nicj4
Guadeloupe
Member since Jan 2020
774 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

Only if he demands a trade. If he is frustrated and wants out, we wouldn’t have to give up more than we need to.

I don't see how it would be doable to easily have Beal.
Considering his salary, you must trade Adams, Bledsoe, Ingram or other.
I tried a potential trade : LINK
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:34 pm to
We're gonna have the same issue trying to trade for any high quality guy on his second contract matching salaries

Obviously Bledsoe is expendable and Adams could be for the right guy
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 11:37 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11314 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:55 pm to
I love recency bias. 3 months ago everybody on here would say that Holiday=Beal. So we are going to put together an even bigger package, than what we got for Holiday,to gain Beal. So how exactly are we going to be better?
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:33 am to
quote:

I love recency bias. 3 months ago everybody on here would say that Holiday=Beal


Uh no
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11314 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:50 am to
Holiday is a borderline top 25 player. Are you saying Beal is top 10? 15?
Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:03 am to
What are you looking for in a player?

Beal is a guy who can you get you 60

Holiday can win you a game with his defense.

In the most recent RealGM poll, Beal was voted 17th and Holiday was on pace to come around 32-35th
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 1:03 am
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5744 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:58 am to
quote:

If we can get it done without losing JJ, I'm more than good with that. I'm just thinking of players that have some trade value


Look, ive been a huge JJ fan since Duke. But is the deal breaker really going to be over a dude on the verge of retirement?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32124 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Holiday is a borderline top 25 player. Are you saying Beal is top 10? 15?


Beal is a borderline top 25 player.
Holiday is a borderline top 40 player.

I'd say in hard and overall advanced stats.

As a defender, holiday is better, but offensively Beal is elite compared.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 8:38 am
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