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re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:09 pm to Colonel Flagg
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:09 pm to Colonel Flagg
A good deal whether people want to admit it or not is
Pels get Capela and Tobias Harris (sign-and-trade)
Hawks get Paul Reed and picks
Sixers get BI and Garrison Mathews
Pels get Capela and Tobias Harris (sign-and-trade)
Hawks get Paul Reed and picks
Sixers get BI and Garrison Mathews
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:24 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
Time to rehash this thread with the Murray trade and now that we know we have a PG.
Next trade:
Philly: Ingram, Strus or Levert(if Cleveland wants to dump salary)
Cavs: Reed, 2 1sts from Philly
Pels: Allen, McCain
This trade puts us around 20 million below the tax so we have access to full MLE and BAE to use, along with the Kira TPE if someone wants to dump a player. I would offer full BAE to Achiuwa, full MLE to Hayward, bring back Zeller. Giving full BAE to Precious maybe enough to get him away from Knicks,
Murray/McCain/Jose
Herb/CJ/Hawk
Trey/Hayward/Ryan
Zion/Achiuwa/JRE
Allen/Missi/Zeller
That’s 15 deep of guys that can play
Idk why you're getting downvoted. This would be an excellent outcome.
Only thing I would change is I would give the MLE to Naji instead of Hayward. He looked pretty washed this year and we could really use Naji's defensive versatility off the bench now that Dyson is gone.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:05 pm to BallHawk
quote:That is an absolutely disgusting return unless there are multiple 1st involved.
A good deal whether people want to admit it or not is
Pels get Capela and Tobias Harris (sign-and-trade)
Hawks get Paul Reed and picks
Sixers get BI and Garrison Mathews
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:33 pm to NOSHAU
Tier 1:
KAT
Lauri
Tier 1.5:
Allen
Kessler
Tier 2:
WCJ
Mitchell Robinson
Mark Williams
Duren
Stewart
Reed
Ayton
I still think we could end up with Capella if we choose one of the rookie contracts.
KAT
Lauri
Tier 1.5:
Allen
Kessler
Tier 2:
WCJ
Mitchell Robinson
Mark Williams
Duren
Stewart
Reed
Ayton
I still think we could end up with Capella if we choose one of the rookie contracts.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:44 pm to Dantheman504
I will still hold strong on my original offer. More so that we have Murray.
BI for John Collins + Kessler + 1-2 1st.
Murray/ Jose/ vet or rookie
CJ/ Herb/ Hawk
Trey/ Reeves/ Ryan
Zion/ Collins/ JRE
Kessler/ Missi/ vet min
Or best case scenario would be
Kessler + picks + Capella
BI for John Collins + Kessler + 1-2 1st.
Murray/ Jose/ vet or rookie
CJ/ Herb/ Hawk
Trey/ Reeves/ Ryan
Zion/ Collins/ JRE
Kessler/ Missi/ vet min
Or best case scenario would be
Kessler + picks + Capella
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:51 pm to BallHawk
quote:
Hawks get Paul Reed and picks
That’s not a good trade in the slightest. Paul Reed by himself is plenty for Capella.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 5:06 pm to Soggymoss
Remaining free agents of any importance:
PG- Philly?
Klay- Mavs/ Clips/ Philly rumors
Miles Bridges- resign??
Derozen- resign??
Tyus Jones-
Hartenstein-
Tobias Harris-
KCP- Philly rumors
Buddy Hield-
Patrick Williams-
Val-
Naji-
(BI)-
(Lavine)-
PG- Philly?
Klay- Mavs/ Clips/ Philly rumors
Miles Bridges- resign??
Derozen- resign??
Tyus Jones-
Hartenstein-
Tobias Harris-
KCP- Philly rumors
Buddy Hield-
Patrick Williams-
Val-
Naji-
(BI)-
(Lavine)-
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:14 am to Soggymoss
What’s thoughts on this one:
6ers: Ingram
Knicks: TPE
Nets: Reed, Jose and 2028 clips pick
Pels: Robinson, Johnson, McCain, 4 2nds from Knicks, 2030 6ers 1st
Nets get a guy they can flip for another pick and a 23.6 million TPE, Jose gets a team with zero expectations in his hometown where he can showcase his talents on the final year of his contract
Knicks send 2nds to move Robinson so they can resign IHart
Pels get their lead bench guard of the future, starter at the 5 and primary backup to Zion that can play small ball 5 and shoot lights out while replenishing 2nds and getting a far out pick that could be very good. This would have us around 5 million below the tax, 13 million below the first apron, so we could realistically use our NTMLE for someone and fill out the 15th spot with a minimum and have space below the apron
Murray/McCain/?
Herb/CJ/Ryan
Trey/Hawk/Reeves
Zion/Cam/JRE
Robinson/Missi/?
For the last two spots you could overpay for Drummond, something like 8 million on a one year deal to give you injury insurance for Robinson, then do the same for Aaron Holiday at a 1 year 4 million or so. We would have multiple options we could go with for those last two spots for sure
6ers: Ingram
Knicks: TPE
Nets: Reed, Jose and 2028 clips pick
Pels: Robinson, Johnson, McCain, 4 2nds from Knicks, 2030 6ers 1st
Nets get a guy they can flip for another pick and a 23.6 million TPE, Jose gets a team with zero expectations in his hometown where he can showcase his talents on the final year of his contract
Knicks send 2nds to move Robinson so they can resign IHart
Pels get their lead bench guard of the future, starter at the 5 and primary backup to Zion that can play small ball 5 and shoot lights out while replenishing 2nds and getting a far out pick that could be very good. This would have us around 5 million below the tax, 13 million below the first apron, so we could realistically use our NTMLE for someone and fill out the 15th spot with a minimum and have space below the apron
Murray/McCain/?
Herb/CJ/Ryan
Trey/Hawk/Reeves
Zion/Cam/JRE
Robinson/Missi/?
For the last two spots you could overpay for Drummond, something like 8 million on a one year deal to give you injury insurance for Robinson, then do the same for Aaron Holiday at a 1 year 4 million or so. We would have multiple options we could go with for those last two spots for sure
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:10 am to Soggymoss
Bruh chill out about McCain. They probably aren't going to trade him, we don't need him, and you value him way too high.
Knicks need cap space. We should'nt lose 1sts by helping them.
Cam Johnson is not worth Reed + Jose + 28' 1st especially to be our backup..
BI is not worth McCain + 4 2nd + 1 1st.
Knicks need cap space. We should'nt lose 1sts by helping them.
Cam Johnson is not worth Reed + Jose + 28' 1st especially to be our backup..
BI is not worth McCain + 4 2nd + 1 1st.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:12 am to Dantheman504
You just traded extra value for 2 players that wont even start bruh.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:15 am to Dantheman504
quote:
Cam Johnson is not worth Reed + Jose + 28' 1st especially to be our backup..
You’re correct, he’s likely worth more than that.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:21 am to Soggymoss
Not necessarily. There is not a lot of teams who can take 25+ mil into a PF. John Collins/ Cam Johnsons contracts are both meh. John Collins would be closer to a center and would actually help more for fit IMO.
Regardless of Johnsons "value". He does NOT have that value on our team. We need a starting center, backup PF, backup SF.
The trade would be a base of Tobias Harris + (2) picks
Then you have (1) pick + Reed to flip for a better center.
Or you wrap in Capella to make salaries works.
So:
Hawks: (2) 2nds
Philly: BI
Pels: Tobias + Reed + Capella + (3) 1st
Regardless of Johnsons "value". He does NOT have that value on our team. We need a starting center, backup PF, backup SF.
The trade would be a base of Tobias Harris + (2) picks
Then you have (1) pick + Reed to flip for a better center.
Or you wrap in Capella to make salaries works.
So:
Hawks: (2) 2nds
Philly: BI
Pels: Tobias + Reed + Capella + (3) 1st
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:31 am to Dantheman504
quote:
We need a starting center, backup PF, backup SF.
All of that is literally covered with above trade…
BI, Nance, Dyson, EJ, Jose and 2 1sts out
Murray, McCain (who philly absolutely will include), Cam, Robinson, 2nds and a 1st in
You get your starting PG, bench PG, starting C, backup PF/small ball center, and the flexibility to use your 12 million TPE however you choose.
quote:
There is not a lot of teams who can take 25+ mil into a PF.
Cam is under contract for 3 more years at 23,21,23 million
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 9:38 am
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:37 am to Soggymoss
You don't include value for Cam Johnson who we don't need and Mitchell who they HAVE to get rid of even for peanuts.
The base package is Tobias + (2) 1st.
Then you have Reed + ????? ( Maybe an extra 1st maybe 4 2nds)
Then you can add 1 of: Robinson/ Capella. For 2nds.
Then you have the decision to keep Reed or attach Reed and 1 of the picks for:
Kessler
Mark Williams
Stewart
The base package is Tobias + (2) 1st.
Then you have Reed + ????? ( Maybe an extra 1st maybe 4 2nds)
Then you can add 1 of: Robinson/ Capella. For 2nds.
Then you have the decision to keep Reed or attach Reed and 1 of the picks for:
Kessler
Mark Williams
Stewart
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:37 am to BallHawk
2 has been players and we don't even get the 2nd best guy (Reed)?
No thanks.
No thanks.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:38 am to Dantheman504
quote:
The base package is Tobias + (2) 1st.
This is horrible bruh. Who you think Harris is? Cam is younger and better than he is and his contract is less than Harris will sign for. I swear y’all see names and not the actual players.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:40 am to Dantheman504
So if you break it down:
Secured: Tobias + (2) 1st - BI
Secured: Capella/ Robinson - 2nds from Philly
Secured: Reed + 1st or 2nds - BI
If you don't like Reed/ Missi then you can consider one of the other younger centers and attach a pick. Ideally keep 28-31' picks and use our owm 25' or something.
Secured: Tobias + (2) 1st - BI
Secured: Capella/ Robinson - 2nds from Philly
Secured: Reed + 1st or 2nds - BI
If you don't like Reed/ Missi then you can consider one of the other younger centers and attach a pick. Ideally keep 28-31' picks and use our owm 25' or something.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 9:43 am
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:58 am to Soggymoss
I meant base package as in 100% coming back.
The whole package would be
Tobias + Reed + (2-3) 1sts + 2nds
We may take Reed + (1) 1st + 2nds to solve the center spot.
If Philly trades 2nds for Robinson then our "base package back" is:
Tobias + (2) 1st + Robinson
Then we can still take Reed + 1st and get someone else if we want. Like Kessler.
So Tobias + (2) 1st + Robinson + Kessler.
Sounds like pretty good value for BI to me.
I think this one would be my new favorite.
The whole package would be
Tobias + Reed + (2-3) 1sts + 2nds
We may take Reed + (1) 1st + 2nds to solve the center spot.
If Philly trades 2nds for Robinson then our "base package back" is:
Tobias + (2) 1st + Robinson
Then we can still take Reed + 1st and get someone else if we want. Like Kessler.
So Tobias + (2) 1st + Robinson + Kessler.
Sounds like pretty good value for BI to me.
I think this one would be my new favorite.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 10:01 am
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:37 am to whatiknowsofar
Is Lauri and option still ? Can he play 5 against some of the thicker centers ?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:57 am to lgtiger
quote:
Can he play 5 against some of the thicker centers ?
I don't think so. He's more of a 3/4 tweener than a 5.
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