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re: tOfficial NBA Draft Rumor Thread
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:21 am to Bronc
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:21 am to Bronc
Am I weird for not being all that interested in adding another vet rotation piece at this point? I want to see how the current roster looks in 22-23 with Zion, another year of growth for Trey and Herb, etc.
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:24 am to DallasTiger45
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Am I weird for not being all that interested in adding another vet rotation piece at this point?
Not at all
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:29 am to TigerinATL
quote:Also, don't do a conference rival any favors. Let them lose Johnson for nothing, or peanuts. That arguably helps us more going forward than adding Johnson here.
These guys are available every year. We drafted 2 last year. We just have to keep drafting and developing and we'll be fine. Don't take short cuts, short cuts come with costs we don't want to pay.
That roster without Johnson and a declining CP is very thin. Only reason Johnson is even mentioned is because there's absolutely nothing of value after him.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 10:33 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:31 am to DallasTiger45
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Am I weird for not being all that interested in adding another vet rotation piece at this point?
i will be extremely disappointed if they make any move for a 20-25 minute veteran
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:36 am to supe12sta12z
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Would make absolutely 0 sense to bring Cam in when you have that role filled by Murphy.
said by no one ever.
what do you think he's going to get paid? 4/$65? I think what you've seen from Buddy, then Joe Harris, then Lonzo, and now Duncan is that these guys shouldn't be making $20M+/yr, and they should be more around the $15M/yr range.
I'd have no problem giving him $15M/yr, assuming we move DG out. I'd look at it the same as keeping Jax and resigning him (which would also mean he's gone too). I don't think Herb ever becomes the shooter Trey or Cam are, but having those 3 guys who can defend 1-4 and provide on the offensive end is exactly what we should be surrounding Zion and BI with.
Again, imagine a lineup where Trey and Cam are roaming the 3 point line while Zion and whoever else are running pick and rolls trying to get to the basket. Those two would shoot over 50% on those wide arse open corner 3's.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:41 am to TeddyPadillac
No thanks. If Johnson was an elite movement shooter, I’d be more willing but the redundancy isn’t worth the cost of his potential salary. I’d much rather have Herb on the court who is head and shoulders above Cam on defense and it’s not even close. You act like Cam is Bridges on defense or something. He’s a spot up shooter with no creation or handles.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:43 am to smoke225
Not exactly a rumor but Vecenie has us picking Dieng at 8
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:43 am to supe12sta12z
I can not believe we are having the argument that we don’t want a really good player because we already have a really good player. As if, heaven forbid, we had two really excellent three point shooters.
How is this a conversation?
How is this a conversation?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:44 am to PELsu
Salary cap and minutes are already tight. We have plenty of guys who will need to be paid and I’d much rather allocate it to those guys than Cam fricking Johnson.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:44 am to Macintosh
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Not exactly a rumor but Vecenie has us picking Dieng at 8
I don’t get Dieng at all. He is truly a, close your eyes and hope for the best, prospect.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:45 am to PELsu
quote:because Cam Johnson is about to get PAID and isn’t worth the money he’s about to receive. That’s why
I can not believe we are having the argument that we don’t want a really good player because we already have a really good player. As if, heaven forbid, we had two really excellent three point shooters. How is this a conversation?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:45 am to The_Duke
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don't understand why the NBA teams pay these guys the money. Was anyone else really going to pay Duncan 90mill? Who is beating down the door to pay Cam? Where is all this leverage coming from? Someone help
Even if you play hard ball and your guy takes the lower deal, you'll have a disgruntled player
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:46 am to PELsu
quote:disagree, I really don’t think he’s this huge boom or bust prospect.
He is truly a, close your eyes and hope for the best, prospect.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:46 am to PELsu
Dieng is 100% potential pick.
He has great size/length, some good skill for his age, super young, but was very up and down and can't shoot.
I'd take the chance on him personally. I'd prefer it be at 10-12 rather than 8 though.
He has great size/length, some good skill for his age, super young, but was very up and down and can't shoot.
I'd take the chance on him personally. I'd prefer it be at 10-12 rather than 8 though.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:47 am to PELsu
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I can not believe we are having the argument that we don’t want a really good player because we already have a really good player. As if, heaven forbid, we had two really excellent three point shooters.
Because building a roster is about more than just “adding really good players”. You need to factor in their length of contract, salary cap cost, cost to acquire, fit, etc.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:51 am to supe12sta12z
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Salary cap and minutes are already tight. We have plenty of guys who will need to be paid and I’d much rather allocate it to those guys than Cam fricking Johnson.
Everyone knows he needs to be paid, hence the entire above conversation. But the, “we have Treye Murphy” part is where you are going way off the rails.
Cam Johnson is a versatile 6’8 defensive wing that is an ELITE 3 point shooter at 42.5% last season. IF our guys are gone and IF we can maintain a first somehow, Cam makes us a much much better team next season. And you at least have his matching rights.
Contract is major problem. Basketball fit is not a problem.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:55 am to SLafourche07
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Because building a roster is about more than just “adding really good players”. You need to factor in their length of contract, salary cap cost, cost to acquire, fit, etc.
I don’t think you were following that back and forth. Of course contract and salary are important. What kept getting stated was that we don’t want or need Cam because we have Treye Murphy, which is absurd.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:57 am to PELsu
Trey’s on a rookie deal slotted low for several seasons.
Keeping him and then figuring out if he supplants Cam isn’t the issue.
I see the issue being that if we get Cam, we immediately have to start shipping out other players to clear cash for his new deal, as those guys won’t be kept.
Jax, Kira, Temple, and Graham would all have to go. Then we would either need to sign cheap vets for any further holes or hit on all our picks because we won’t have any cap room of significance for quite a while.
Keeping him and then figuring out if he supplants Cam isn’t the issue.
I see the issue being that if we get Cam, we immediately have to start shipping out other players to clear cash for his new deal, as those guys won’t be kept.
Jax, Kira, Temple, and Graham would all have to go. Then we would either need to sign cheap vets for any further holes or hit on all our picks because we won’t have any cap room of significance for quite a while.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:58 am to PELsu
Murphy I’d a 6’9 versatile defensive wing. Trey shot 38% as a rookie who was in and out of the rotation early on. Then he shot 47% in the playoffs.
Sounds like your description of Johnson. Except Trey is on a cost controlled contract.
Sounds like your description of Johnson. Except Trey is on a cost controlled contract.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:00 am to supe12sta12z
Still missing the point. This is not a Murphy vs Cam discussion. That’s like saying I don’t want Paul George because I already have Kawhi. The discussion is, does a trade make sense for Cam Johnson who we know we likely can’t extend. This has nothing to do with Murphy.
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