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re: Dennis Allen was a bad hire.

Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by Neilfish
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:17 pm to
Keeping Pete is his issue
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:05 am to
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You are a weird stalker





Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34222 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 12:23 pm to
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I thought DA COULD be successful here. But his first big mistake was hiring Pete after (I assume) he lost out on some of the other guys he wanted. His tenure as our coach will be determined by how long he keeps Pete around. Jameis too for that matter.



He brought in some pretty shitty names. I don't think he missed out on them as much as he just stuck with pete

I think pete is getting shite on a little too much

If jameis connects on his throws to olave, nobody is saying a word

I would've loved to bring in a young guy with new ideas or even pair that guy with pete

Point is i think pete will be ok if jameis plays better. Jameis played horribly.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:06 pm to
Bump
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:10 pm to
Weed is pretty legal in new orleans these days
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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289793 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:05 pm to
Dennis Allen has never not lost. He is a loser
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22918 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:07 pm to
A "player's coach" aka sloppy, undisciplined & a lack of attention to detail.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 12:08 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74193 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:24 pm to
Allen’s teams in OAK

2012 9th in penalty yards
2013 5th in penalty yards
2014 9th in penalty yards

Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:28 pm to
What's the Saints rank so far here in 2022 in terms of penalties? What's the team's rank in turnovers specifically fumbles? I remember Payton being a stickler about not turning the ball over especially fumbles. He would force players to do extra ball protection drills after a game where a player coughed it up.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34222 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:38 pm to
I think they are last in turnover margin.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289793 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:19 pm to
Bump
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12570 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:23 pm to
This season is over.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:24 pm to
Yep, he was a terrible hire, as I said when it happened.

For whatever reason, some guys just don’t get it. He’s a great DC, bad HC, like many other in the NFL and CFB.

Why can’t they just accept as much?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:33 pm to
It was just a lazy hire
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:19 am to
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He’s a great DC, bad HC, like many other in the NFL and CFB.

Why can’t they just accept as much?

Coaches at at that level are often sociopathic narcissists. It's what it takes to grind like they do amongst a sea of sociopathic narcissists.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471589 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:20 am to
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It was just a lazy hire

I agree with this, but I still disagree with Les that we had a shot with McDaniel. Or Daboll. They both went to hand-picked teams.

I'd take Frank Reich in a heartbeat, though, although I don't know if he's come to another team with no clear QB plan.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29644 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:34 am to
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I'd take Frank Reich in a heartbeat, though, although I don't know if he's come to another team with no clear QB plan.


I would also. Much like I wanted Pederson. Get me a veteran coach who has led a team to the post season to right this ship.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128947 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:36 am to
I thought it was a lazy hire at the time but wanted to give him a chance as he's a good DC and maybe he had learned lessons since Oakland.

Turns out he is just not Head Coach material.

Cut bait, now.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:40 am to
They won't make a move to fire Allen until it becomes clear what, if any, compensation they will get if Payton returns to coach. Have to hope that San Diego or Arizona makes a move to fire their coach before the end of the season to help out with timing.

If you could pair Reich with a high draft pick and let him have input on who the QB would be, that's an appetizing situation.
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