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re: Shough signed, fully guaranteed contract
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:03 am to Soda City Spur
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:03 am to Soda City Spur
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Him holding out for an extra 2-3 million guaranteed just tells me he doesn’t even think he’s a long term QB
Yes the entire second round of the nfl draft held out until the last week or so to get as much guaranteed money as possible because none of them think they can make it in the nfl ….
Amazing insight … can’t wait for some more of your takes
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Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:08 am to Soda City Spur
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Him holding out for an extra 2-3 million guaranteed just tells me he doesn’t even think he’s a long term QB
You went full retard
Posted on 7/20/25 at 8:20 am to Soda City Spur
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Him holding out for an extra 2-3 million guaranteed just tells me he doesn’t even think he’s a long term QB
How do people like this have the brain capacity to even operate a phone
Posted on 7/20/25 at 11:11 am to TigerBait2008
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Only arse here is you.. learn a little football
I came out my mama knowing more football then you. Have yet to see you post one thing of value other than call other posters dumb. Nice shtick to never be wrong about anything when you post absolutely nothing
This post was edited on 7/20/25 at 11:12 am
Posted on 7/20/25 at 11:15 am to Geauxldilocks
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We caved but to be expected Shough had the leverage given he’s the likely starter and the general sense among informed Saints fans how incompetent Loomis is.
Actually, the NFLPA has been pushing for fully guaranteed contracts for 2nd rounders this year, and the players around him in the draft got them, so the one guy most likely to start was going to get it too. Every GM in the league would have done the same thing.
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The fully guarantee means he’s paid in full for the 4 year rookie deal and reduces his trade value to us if we are forced to trade him because he is not starter material.
If he is not starter material, he has no trade value anyway. This is not the NBA.
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As more contracts in the NFL become like MLB and NBA (fully guaranteed) it hurts the small market teams like us more. Overall this is a very disturbing signing.
Also irrelevant. Small market teams like us are unable to do the cash-over-cap method of salary cap management, but fully guaranteed contracts have nothing to do with that. In the long run, everyone spends the same amount of money; the difference is in how hits the books.
Posted on 7/20/25 at 11:17 am to Borntoboogy
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He reads the field well, has a strong arm, not afraid to tuck it and run.
Allen is Cam Newton with accuracy.
His arm isn’t anything close to Allen’s.
He also gets very jumpy in the pocket with pressure, similar to Carr. He may be ok with superior protection, but I think his ceiling is Carr. We’d be extremely lucky if that’s the case.
This post was edited on 7/20/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 7/20/25 at 11:35 am to Hester Carries
You’re the loser if you can’t see that he will never be Jared Allen, please elaborate on how you think he will be if you’re this great scout.
Also, you need a little work on your reading comprehension, I never said I wanted him to fail or he sucked….But you’re a dumbass if you think he’s will be at Allen’s level… if he is good enough to be our franchise QB so be it. I’m still a saints fan…
Also, you need a little work on your reading comprehension, I never said I wanted him to fail or he sucked….But you’re a dumbass if you think he’s will be at Allen’s level… if he is good enough to be our franchise QB so be it. I’m still a saints fan…
This post was edited on 7/20/25 at 11:43 am
Posted on 7/20/25 at 12:59 pm to TwoDatBait
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You’re the loser if you can’t see that he will never be Jared Allen, please elaborate on how you think he will be if you’re this great scout.
Yeah I agree with you that he will never be an elite pass rusher. Brilliant insight!
Posted on 7/20/25 at 1:21 pm to Hester Carries
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Yeah I agree with you that he will never be an elite pass rusher. Brilliant insight!
I'll be satisfied if he's La'roi Glover.
Posted on 7/20/25 at 6:49 pm to Hester Carries
Yea sorry, I don’t check for autocorrect when replying to emotional children…
Posted on 7/20/25 at 6:53 pm to TwoDatBait
Are you claiming your phone auto corrected Josh to Jared? Just to be clear?
This post was edited on 7/20/25 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 7/20/25 at 7:00 pm to Hester Carries
Don’t know, didn’t check it. Did yours when you were being a keyboard warrior calling people you don’t know shite about a loser… internet has made some pretty badass dudes that wouldn’t say shite like that in real life…
Posted on 7/20/25 at 7:02 pm to TwoDatBait
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Did yours when you were being a keyboard warrior calling people you don’t know shite about
No
Posted on 7/21/25 at 1:16 am to Townedrunkard
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He also gets very jumpy in the pocket with pressure, similar to Carr. He may be ok with superior protection, but I think his ceiling is Carr. We’d be extremely lucky if that’s the case.
So we reduced Carr's salary by 93%?
Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:13 am to 3PieceSpicy
quote:Can't really be that dumb. This started with the Texans giving the first ever fully guaranteed contract to the 34th pick, and the 41st pick signed before Shough for 95% guaranteed and the 39th pick for 100%.
Wow Mickey really got cucked by a 27 year old rookie
So should we have drawn a hard line for 97-98% guaranteed? What's the point?
This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 9:14 am
Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:16 am to Geauxldilocks
quote:See 3piece, I know this guy is actually that dumb. I expected better from you 3piece.
We caved
Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:24 am to Soda City Spur
quote:It was literally an "extra" $540,236 guaranteed, and this was orchestrated by the agents, not the players, to push the guarantees further down the draft.
Him holding out for an extra 2-3 million guaranteed just tells me he doesn’t even think he’s a long term QB
If it was just him holding out all you crybabies about this would have a point, but it was basically the whole 2nd round doing this, kicked off by the Texans.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:28 am to Townedrunkard
quote:Who? This is complete bullshite. Every pick before Shough signed for 100%, and the pick after signed for 95% quickly after others started falling so we would be the ones to be last to hold. We literally were the last to keep up trying to hold the line, but the chickens behind us started falling giving damn near full.
Nah, a few gms held strong
Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:35 am to Townedrunkard
quote:So said to see once middle of the road, more rational posters (well, most of the time) like you fall into this state of chicken little where everything is bad and we can't even have a little optimism without being called face painters around here.
I came out my mama knowing more football then you.
I made my position clear months ago, I didn't want a 2nd round qb because the odds are not great, and if you were that confident in a guy you would take him in the 1st. But I also see the potential for what he can do if he gets coached up well and takes to it. So I'm not expecting greatness, but I hope he can be capable of starting and am willing to be pleasantly surprised if he is great, rather than just calling this an 0-17 team before any snaps are even played.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:39 am to bonethug0180
I’m expecting this 2nd round pick to work out about as well as Foskey.
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