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Posted on 4/3/19 at 4:39 am to TigerGman
Anyone going to explain WTF a super score is?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 4:41 am to TigerGman
Super Score allows you to take your best score from each section over several different test dates. Total them up as if you’d done it all in one day. Some colleges allow it and others don’t. No big deal.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 5:09 am to 257WBY
Our son was tested for ADHD...he tried a few drugs, hated it gave him headaches and loss of appetite, so he does nothing to combat his ADHD...
I thought his behavior was boyish immaturity...and blatant rebellion doing what we ask...but we have since learned...his mind works a little different and he genuinely forgets to do basic tasks. It's very frustrating as a parent..
He recently took the SAT...and math is typically an area he does well in he scored below average ..
He is 501 eligible but never uses the extra time / room...
After the SAT he said " the extra time would have been very helpful" that's the first time he's admitted he needs it
We also recently switched schools and believe he is now behind where he should be in math.
Lastly, I would add that it's very difficult to get into UNC, NC state residing in wake county...plus its expensive...27k a year if you get in without merits/discounts
There is a lot of expectation and pressure on kids today...
Our son takes a couple of AP classes , it's impressive in my opinion .
I wasn't challenged like he is today... I was in the public school system 35 years ago (in Houston...)
College counselor said."if he already has a B on his transcript, he's disqualified from getting into Duke"
Not that he would go there, but that comment stood out to me...
68k a year to attend Duke...
It's out of hand
I thought his behavior was boyish immaturity...and blatant rebellion doing what we ask...but we have since learned...his mind works a little different and he genuinely forgets to do basic tasks. It's very frustrating as a parent..
He recently took the SAT...and math is typically an area he does well in he scored below average ..
He is 501 eligible but never uses the extra time / room...
After the SAT he said " the extra time would have been very helpful" that's the first time he's admitted he needs it
We also recently switched schools and believe he is now behind where he should be in math.
Lastly, I would add that it's very difficult to get into UNC, NC state residing in wake county...plus its expensive...27k a year if you get in without merits/discounts
There is a lot of expectation and pressure on kids today...
Our son takes a couple of AP classes , it's impressive in my opinion .
I wasn't challenged like he is today... I was in the public school system 35 years ago (in Houston...)
College counselor said."if he already has a B on his transcript, he's disqualified from getting into Duke"
Not that he would go there, but that comment stood out to me...
68k a year to attend Duke...
It's out of hand
Posted on 4/3/19 at 5:36 am to ApexTiger
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There is a lot of expectation and pressure on kids today...
No more than before, it's just kids are coddled more and cannot deal with failure. Everyone getting a trophy and promoting mediocrity over excelling brings about their inability to deal with pressure and failure whenever they reach the point of reality.
In reference to the super score, they already do this for athletes. This is how kids that are witnessed by other students and teachers barely showing the ability to read and write can get into universities that they would otherwise have zero shot at. Well, that coupled with lower ACT standards for athletes as well.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 5:44 am to 257WBY
quote:Thanks
Super Score allows you to take your best score from each section over several different test dates. Total them up as if you’d done it all in one day. Some colleges allow it and others don’t. No big deal.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:38 am to Scrowe
The SAT has been doing this since the 90s; I am a bit surprised the ACT took so long to jump on as well.
It certainly favors students who can afford both in time and money to take the test multiple times beyond the basic one would get from exposure in taking it a second time.
I do know that schools get sent all subscores for all tests taken, so I would imagine if you just went in and bubbled C in Math trying to raise your English score and got something ridiculously low that wouldn’t look great for you at a highly competitive school. They want at least the appearance of effort across the board.
It certainly favors students who can afford both in time and money to take the test multiple times beyond the basic one would get from exposure in taking it a second time.
I do know that schools get sent all subscores for all tests taken, so I would imagine if you just went in and bubbled C in Math trying to raise your English score and got something ridiculously low that wouldn’t look great for you at a highly competitive school. They want at least the appearance of effort across the board.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:42 am to Scrowe
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No more than before, it's just kids are coddled more and cannot deal with failure.
Not accurate depending on the time frame you are referencing. At least not in Louisiana. When I went to LSU I wasn't at all concerned about qualifying to enter.
Under state laws at the time (1979-1980) the entrance requirements for louisiana citizens or their children getting into a public university or college was simply having a valid Louisiana high school diploma (GED was acceptable) and a valid ACT test (any score) score.
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Everyone getting a trophy and promoting mediocrity over excelling brings about their inability to deal with pressure and failure whenever they reach the point of reality.
The everyone gets a trophy thing goes back to tee ball, primarily, and was an attempt to keep very young kids interested in playing baseball going forward. I think in order to combat other things (like soccer is my recollection) that were eating into baseball's popularity. Not a bad idea for all these kids who may not have developed that competitive instinct yet. Bad idea to keep it going beyond the 7-8 year old range. That was on parents, primarily mom's I think, who wanted their kids to get something. I think the kids honestly couldn't have care any less for these trophies.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:46 am to saint tiger225
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3 drew the short stick.
I'll take 3 all day, everyday. She has an Audrey Hepburn look to her and I think she's beautiful.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 6:52 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 6:58 am to phutureisyic
This just sounds like a racket for the ACT company to make more money by getting the kids to test more.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:00 am to Jackie Chan
quote:the worst was the people in college who got extra time on exams for no reason. Half the struggle of engineering exams was can you complete the test in the provided amount of time. Drove me crazy
but I always got pissed at those other kids in class they got extra time on the ACT for this or that reason.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:54 am to Scrowe
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kids are coddled more and cannot deal with failure.
Yep. That’s what happens when kids don’t learn to lose/fail.
Everyone getting a trophy or when there are so many tournaments/competitions that coaches can just shop their teams around to find a tournament/competition where they can be the big fish in a smaller pond.
I don’t know if any of you have kids involved in dance or gymnastics but my SO is heavily involved in that area and they make so many tiers (beginner, intermediate, advanced) then it’s bronze, silver, gold, platinum, then diamond awards. Nobody ever knows who the hell won bc there are 12 awards for each age group. Or you have studio owners portraying their competition team as an “intermediate” so they’re competing against a lower talent/experience pool just to win.
I see the same things with my son during baseball. It’s absurd.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:09 am to Scrowe
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No more than before, it's just kids are coddled more and cannot deal with failure.
I understand this perception, some of this is very true and some of it isn't true because everyone is different and have different parenting and circumstances.
I think some times we forget how we were at age 16...
I think we forget the stupid stuff we did and some how expect our teens to never mess up
People are people
the world has changed yes...
but I don't believe for a second school work is easier than it was 35 years ago..not what we're experiencing or remember
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:10 am to jac1280
You think people want to take that thing multiple times and focus just on one section?
That definitely prepared me for the real world.
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I feel that a huge challenge about the ACT is staying mentally focused for the entire 4-5 hours while taking the entire ACT.
That definitely prepared me for the real world.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:15 am to Scrowe
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Everyone getting a trophy
I swear this is more of a meme than reality.
Or maybe my parents just weren't pussies.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:16 am to Scrowe
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No more than before, it's just kids are coddled more and cannot deal with failur
well, I am not sure I agree with you completely. I see what you saying in many areas of society but i am speaking through the lens of our children
There is pressure to score 1300 or higher,that's not easy at all, way higher than average, but that's what it takes to get into UNC or NC State today as just an example in NC...
extremely competitive...
someone also said everyone is getting a 5.2 grade average in HS...what kind of none-sense is that?
3rd, did you know 80% of college students today are taking 6 years to finish 4 year degree?
The drop out rate is pretty discouraging as well...but it's always been high
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people can succeed without college...
maybe we need to look at education differently
testing is over the top these days
not everyone test well...but that doesn't mean they don't know the material or have a low IQ
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:18 am to 257WBY
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No big deal
I mean, it's kind of a big deal for the schools that implement it. It's far easier to study for one section than 3.
It's not exactly preparing children for the real world, but we gave up on using school for that purpose long ago.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:25 am to Norbert
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it's kind of a big deal for the schools that implement it. It's far easier to study for one section than 3.
You still have to take it 3 fricking times. frick that. The test is boring as shite and a waste of a Saturday morning. If you're involved in sports, it's a hassle.
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It's not exactly preparing children for the real world
Lol as if the ACT was ever that.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:32 am to jac1280
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I would argue no since it enables students to focus solely on one category each time they take the ACT.
I don't think very many people actually do this. No high school kid wants to sit for an SAT or ACT more than they have to.
10 years ago when I was that age, I feel like everyone took the SAT twice. Once to get used to the test and setting, once to improve on that. Serious diminishing marginal returns after the second try.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:49 am to TH03
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Lol as if the ACT was ever that.
Not the ACT itself, but the notion that if I am unable to do any given job, the job can be tailored to me.
Standardized testing serves a necessary purpose, but it's been abused.
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