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Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:34 pm to RLDSC FAN
Every single year cars hit an all time high.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:49 pm to Obtuse1
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People who pine for true analog cars either never drove them or have forgotten how much care and feeding they actually need to stay running. There is a reason almost nobody building a resto-mod builds it truly analog today.
I dont think when people say this they mean EFI or OBD2 ports, its garbage like cylinder deactivation and start stop.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:51 pm to LSUtoBOOT
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The only way to temper corporate greed is with consumer self control.
It's not greed if people are willing to pay it.
The problem is they are ABLE to pay it due to the loose lending environment we have.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
Weird. When they passed all those free trade deals in the 1990s they said the money would trickle down.
Why didn't we see any savings over the past 30 years?
Why didn't we see any savings over the past 30 years?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Dealer margins are lower than they have been. Its production and component cost, not margins.
The manufacturer is overpricing their vehicles when they sell them to dealerships. New Fords and Chevys don’t have a lick of an advantage over Toyotas and Hondas in terms of quality nor reliability yet they are determined to do iPhone pricing without the slavish devoted fanbase that Apple has
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:07 pm to RLDSC FAN
Mate, my gameplan is to upgrade to a loaded & lifted 2024 Lexus GX550 in a couple of years when I can snag one for ~ $69K and ~45K miles 
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:08 pm to DesScorp
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Nope. Bur plenty of people are. Considering what the average income is, im at a complete loss to figure out how all these people are buying new houses and cars. There’s just not that many 6 figure jobs out there. It has to be massive debt. But what happens when the bill comes due? Are banks that easy with refinancing now?
Top income earners have done very, very well over the past 5 years (higher interest rates actually benefits people with accumulated wealth). To them it doesn’t matter if a Yukon is $60,000 or $90,000. That’s a rounding error. Since only 15 or so million new vehicles are sold each year on a country of 330 Million, it doesn’t take many people to push prices higher. Manufacturers have adjusted to serve the top of the market.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:11 pm to YouKnowImRight
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It's not greed if people are willing to pay it.
Greed and stupidity are not always related.
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The problem is they are ABLE to pay it due to the loose lending environment we have.
The banks are greedy too, just like every other corporation.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:13 pm to olemissfan26
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I will continue to buy used and let the baws get those $90k trucks with the shitty V6 engines and 10 speed transmissions designed to blow up after 100k miles.
In 2001, I bought a truck with an MSRP of $30,000. Paid around $26k
In 2009, I bought a truck with an MSRP of $42,000. Paid around $36k
In 2019 I bought a truck with an MSRP of $59,000. Paid around $52k.
This year I bought one with an MSRP of $78,000. Paid $59k. Adjusted for inflation, that's around $32,500 in 2001 dollars for a much bigger and better truck than I bought in 2001.
If people would stop paying what they list them for and paying what they can actually afford, you'll see things normalize quickly, but loose credit has prevented that from happening.
ETA: To the downvoters...I can afford it. Sorry you can't.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
Why are Chinese cars cheaper and with more features and how can we catch up?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:15 pm to Buryl
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Since only 15 or so million new vehicles are sold each year on a country of 330 Million
Oh wow. Going by OT financial threads, you'd think the vast majority buy new cars every year or so.
Smart TD posters are running their 1998 Tacoma into their grave while all their neighbors, friends and family make their bi--annual tahoe/yukon purchase.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
I used to buy a new truck every year or two, but the prices the last few years have completely turned me off from that. Riding this one into the dirt.
It's a Ram so that could be any time now.
It's a Ram so that could be any time now.Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:18 pm to RLDSC FAN
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All-Time High
Meanwhile engine quality is at an all-time low.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:20 pm to LSUtoBOOT
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The banks are greedy too, just like every other corporation.
Lower lending standards is greedy in your opinion? Hell of a take
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:22 pm to Napoleon
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Why are Chinese cars cheaper and with more features and how can we catch up?
1. Basically no labor costs nor regulatory nonsense baked into the cost.
2. “Features” mean nothing if they are half-assed and don’t function worth a damn.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:23 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Smart TD posters are running their 1998 Tacoma into their grave
And call you an idiot for not doing that. Meanwhile they're all OT rich.
If I understand the OT right, there are going to be a lot of poorly raised kids inheriting millions because their dads drove old trucks, never made mistakes in their investments, and got laid a lot.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:24 pm to TheePalmetto
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Lower lending standards is greedy in your opinion? Hell of a take
If the choice is between no loan or making a bad loan ultimately covered by the taxpayers, what would a greedy man take?
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:28 pm to HangmanPage1
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I am the same way, if I go belly up oh well. There is always more financing. I know a guy who is debt free, drives an old 90s car and lives in a trailer. Maybe he’s happy, he’s always saying how amazing it is to be debt free. Idk, it doesn’t bother me.
I couldn’t imagine working my arse off and not spending money on shite and just letting it sit in an account. There’s a happy balance.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 1:43 pm to CatfishJohn
Ill stick with my paid off vehicles.
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