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re: Best watch that isn’t a Rolex

Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14660 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:24 pm to
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Love my spb143, skx, Alpinist, Pogue
I have a seiko coutura kinetic perpetual that is approaching 20 years old. Love this watch!
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:26 pm to
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I've got a Citizen". that is more accurate than either "Rolex' that I have owned.

No one is buying an automatic watch because it’s the most accurate watch in the world. Of course you can buy a quartz watch that keeps better time.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110273 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:32 pm to
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Agree with the Casio. If it is good enough for terrorists it is good enough for me


Fidel used to wear two Rolexes.

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19170 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:41 pm to
Audemars Piquet
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21486 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:51 pm to
No way on that Casio……. digital watches are for people who can’t tell time on a standard watch.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11798 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:55 pm to
Omega owner here

The answer is Patek

-and if you include Rolex, the answer is still Patek.

Numbers are close but haven’t update in the last couple years, but: Rolex makes around 1million watches annually.

In its long history, Patek has made about 1 million watches.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
27537 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:56 pm to
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Waiting on the obtuse1 detailed articulate post

Obtuse and Broke are the resident watch experts... what they say is gospel in my book
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71626 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:59 pm to
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digital watches are for people who can’t tell time on a standard watch.


Well thats a terrible take
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39171 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:05 pm to
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Sure what's your price range
Call it whatever it has to be shy of $75K.

I actually would like to buy an expensive piece as an investment and a less expensive to wear. But I'm a relative novice.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 9:15 pm
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
101765 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:05 pm to
Have an Omega Speedmaster and Seamaster 300 and they are $$
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6657 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:07 pm to
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I sold my speed… I miss it often and love that you never see them in the wild


Maybe it’s the major cities I visit but I see a fair amount of Rolex subs and Speedy’s on the wrists. Both extremely popular and probably the #1 and #2 luxury watches men purchase as their first luxury watch.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65401 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:09 pm to
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You still have a site, Broke??


We still have our watch forum. It's called international watch league
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12655 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:28 pm to
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I would know. And that’s all that matters to me. I don’t care if other people think it’s real or fake. I wear it for me. Not anyone else.


This. I have some very nice watches. I buy expensive ones for myself. I know how much they cost and they usually correlate with milestones in my life and a celebration of success.

The people show buy a fake Rolex are worse than the ones that buy a real Rolex just to try and pretend they have money. A fake Rolex says I don’t even have enough money to pretend like I have money.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 8:41 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30062 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:28 am to
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Waiting on the obtuse1 detailed articulate post


I am not sure how articulate it will be, but the best watch IMO is the one on your wrist that is reasonably accurately set and makes you inwardly smile each time you look at it and goads you into taking sneaky peeks at it throughout the day, even when you already know the time. For some, that may be a modern masterpiece like a Phillipe Dufour or a Roger Smith, for others it might be the scarred resin case of a G-SHOCK that saw them through door-kicking during GWOT. In essence, you should see something personal in it. That watch could be a Casio F-91W worn ironically or not, something chalk like a Rolex, AP, or Patek, or an IYKYK watch like a Grand Seiko. Especially for one watch people a watch can be a faithful companion for their entire lives, and chosen well, it will bring a lifetime of joy and service.

Timekeeping is one of the fundamental pillars of civilization. Wearing and maintaining an autonomous timekeeping device is a nod to the importance of this structure.
Posted by Speckhound
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2020
207 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:34 am to
i don't wear a watch but I would wear that TD sum bish lol!
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19193 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:49 am to
Omega
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30062 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:41 am to
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Can you recommend something with a perpetual calendar?


Perpetual calender
"investment potential" (a rocky road to drive)
under $75k

Let's deal with the first one that dovetails into the second one. You need to be aware of the care and feeding required to own a PC. First, they are. expensive to maintain (keeping in mind meeting #2) and they have a complex setting procedure if left not running often requiring a trip to the factory, and improper attempts to set them can result in major issues. They are watches best kept running. This is the reason I have never owned nor been interested in a PC outside quartz beaters, which I prefer to have a PC function, and why I "hate" Seiko for discontinuing the 8F56 movement. I have waxed poetic about that movement here and far and wide.

Investment potential is hard physical asset classes are dangerous, but they work when you really enjoy them and get benefits even if they don't pan out like you wished. This doesn't happen with say gold bullion unless you are Smaug and I guess it was his undoing too. The appeal of watches is lost if they get tucked away in a vault.

PC and investment potential lead you to one brand at the price point, and that is Patek. What you are looking for is to buy a future 2499 or 1518 before the proces skyrocket. That is harder to do with neo-vintage watches because production numbers climbed and near impossible with current catalog models because everyone keeps box and papers and treats them like an investment. Other brands that have a following, along with low production numbers and potential to appreciate are going to be over the price-point.

If I was pressed for advice here, I would point someone toward a Patek cushion-cased PC. My first choice would be a 5020 TV screen but that time may have passed for a sub 75K version without stories. You need to invest the time to understand what you are seeking like you would if you were buying a 1966 Shelby GT350H because they can also be trash or treasure. I would watch the market, try to buy in a dip and score a good example of a 5020R, I suspect there will be periods when the rose gold is much more sought after than the yellow gold. The 5020P with a salmon dial would be my choice but that is closing in on 10X your budget. Even a good 5020 in white or yellow gold may be a bridge to far but worth the hunt IMO. The 5020G in white gold is a great stealth wealth watch.

The 5940 is where you are more likely to land. The white gold w/ black dial may be doable, but it isn't my favorite but it is rarer. The 5940R (rose gold) would allow you to find an excellent example in your price range they are probably near or at their price nadir, and I think they are a gorgeous watch but I have a soft spot for the Patek cushion-cased PCs and their lower production numbers tend to highlight a potential investment. With watches, you look for the unloved because their rarity and quirkiness are often what drives collectors mad years later. Look at the prices of Rolex 6541 Milgauss and 4 digit Daytonas. Both unloved slow sellers when new that saw 100X returns over their lifetimes.

My overall advice is to buy what you love and will wear and invest any excess in traditional investments. However, with your criteria there is really only one path.


Not so hot take from the investment angle: Buy a nice vintage Raketa Rocket/College and kinda sorta scratch the PC itch and have a intersting conversation starter (I would accost you on the street if I saw it on your wrist). Buy a 3k to 10k watch you would love to have on your wrist every day. Then take the remaining balance and chase potential 10xers. (edit: by 10xers I mean high-risk potential high-return traditional investments like equities) You have a much higher chance of owing a shite load of capital gains tax, although they are much easier to "avoid" on physical asset classes like watches.

If you want one of the coolest PCs, were not worried about investment and willing to patiently wait until examples of IWC's eternal calender drop under $75k... they will. The thing is momentous.





Guess I should add pics of the Pateks:

5020r



5940r





This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 1:45 pm
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29664 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:43 am to


Not mine, but near identical. 5610-1bjf. Adapter for wide black nato.

Looks like $20 bucks. Occasionally a watch nerd spots it for what it is

What it is to me is the only watch I haven't broken. My timex has a shattered glass. My seikos have dead movements. My one trip into omegas has a movement so beat up inside it's basically a Kardashian.

I'm too rough on watches. Hell, I just realized my platinum wedding band is egg shaped...
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 2:51 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:46 am to
I wish they had a constant ultra dim backlight on those
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17410 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:17 am to
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I wish they had a constant ultra dim backlight on those
several GShocks have an auto light function.
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