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re: Christian Nationalism- Threat or Goal?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:56 pm to SquatchDawg
Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:56 pm to SquatchDawg
Argue for Christian Nationalism
Compromise for a mere return to normalcy
Compromise for a mere return to normalcy
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Posted on 1/18/26 at 3:57 pm to I Like Cheeze
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Theocracy is a bad idea.
Which theocracy?
We have a "theocracy" now. Not the God of the Bible theocracy, but some transcendent view that is held supreme.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:10 pm to cssamerican
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First, we need to define what “Christian Nationalism” actually means, because I’m not sure if there is a clear definition universally accepted by everyone.
Agree.
The OP needs to define what he means by "Christian Nationalism"?
The King, whose kingdom is not of this world, has a will for the nations that are of this world.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:16 pm to gungho
Goal
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:18 pm to gungho
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Not a troll
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:24 pm to LSUballs
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This country was founded by Christian Nationalists. The threat is coming from those who opposed that fact.
Ridiculously untrue. If anything they were escaping Christian Nationalists in the monarchy and Church of England.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:28 pm to jcaz
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This country was founded by Christian Nationalists.
Do you truly understand the Separation of Church and State?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:28 pm to Pettifogger
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The reality is that our foundational concepts and bedrock are well suited for a Christian people and far less suited for a secular or actively non-Christian people.
I don't know if I agree with that. American foundational concepts are extremely popular worldwide and are regularly espoused by people who want a representative republican form of government. The thing that is missed is that America was a growing nation and had to adapt to several unique circumstances, with those adaptations allowing the nation to be very robust to crisis. At the same time, it is difficult to export the end result of that process and think it will somehow magically work. The inverse is that the US is exceedingly excellent at making people Americans, so much so that even those who are in the fringes, like Mamdani, represent very American versions of their politics. Hence why Mamdani can quote Andrew Cuomo and make it sound like his own quote. There is a long tradition of immigrants taking to American civic life and excelling in it.
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Honest people will acknowledge that our founders did not/could not envision the population consisting of ardent secularists or Muslims, etc. in significant numbers.
Secularists yes. They could have definitely envisioned that situation.
The major issue at the moment is that American Christianity is at a crossroads. No longer does it seem to produce major thinkers like it did in early American history and the only intellectual tradition that is explicitly Christian in nature is the Catholic tradition, which still produces several widely read writers and thinkers.
It's been more of the case where it seems like the American Christian tradition is just adopting society wide appeasements rather than developing an intellectual framework which envisions a future inside that society, if that makes any sense. That produces a disconnect between the average churchgoer and the leadership, and probably is a source for major discontent.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:29 pm to gungho
Sometimes what you call yourself and how you market yourself matters a lot.
"Nationalism" and "nationalist" have a negative connotation these days and seem kooky and dangerous. If Christian Nationilists called themselves Christian (Something Else), I think it would work better.
"Nationalism" and "nationalist" have a negative connotation these days and seem kooky and dangerous. If Christian Nationilists called themselves Christian (Something Else), I think it would work better.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:30 pm to Bayou
You have to ask him not me lol
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:32 pm to red sox fan 13
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What kind of Christianity do we want for our Christian nationalism anyway?
The Founding Fathers would have said definitely not Catholic. The Establishent Clause had a lot to do with keeping the Catholics from getting carried away.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:33 pm to LSUtwolves
Not Strictly One or the Other: Most founders weren't purely one or the other; they blended Christian heritage with Enlightenment Deism, creating a complex religious landscape. But it is still based on moral principles.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:33 pm to Burt Reynolds
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Christian nationalism is antisemitic
Was this a vote for or against?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:45 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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The Establishent Clause had a lot to do with keeping the Catholics from getting carried away.
No, it did not have “a lot to do with” that.
Specifically, in what way did the Catholics need to be restrained?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:49 pm to LSUballs
quote:Laughably inaccurate but troubling that so many believe this to be true.
Let me let you in on a little secret. This country was founded by Christian Nationalists.
Even a superficial understanding of their religious and political beliefs would belie your statement.
Google "Roger Williams and Rhode Island" a spend some time getting to know the man who stood against attempts to regulate what people believed and how they practiced their faith.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:54 pm to geaux4tigers
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Do you have any source for this?
I have 13 downvotes and not a single response with even a hint of a source supporting this.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:56 pm to gungho
Yahweh
Posted on 1/18/26 at 5:08 pm to LSUballs
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Let me let you in on a little secret. This country was founded by Christian Nationalists. The threat is coming from those who opposed that fact.
Yep, these idiots want to implement systems that are already implemented in other countries yet refuse to move there. Absolute morons.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 5:09 pm to LSUballs
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Let me let you in on a little secret. This country was founded by Christian Nationalists.
Wish this were so.
America was "founded" by certain "societies". Some say Illuminati. Others say, Freemasons. It was never close to being governed BY "Christians".
America did adopt as its societal foundation based a Christian justice and fairness, ethic and morality. The John Birch Society tried to uphold the "Christian Nationalism" idea but it was blackwashed and "finally taken out by the late 1960s by globalists, Marxists and the "chosen" faction.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 5:09 pm to N2cars
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Facts make some people uncomfortable.
democrats aren't people... they're sub-human.
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