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re: Crawfish farmers are making a killing off disaster relief program.

Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6010 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:21 am to
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Then you should get paid on that. Not 100% of prior years catch.


you don't

You get paid on the avg of the last 3 years catch minus what you caught this year and then you get 75% of that unless you are a minority. The ladies at the FSA and most county committees that I talk to aren't letting people just peddle out bs numbers

The ones with the bigger checks per acre will be getting audited by national FSA also
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4840 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:28 am to
Yep that’s facts but he’ll be here shortly to say something different, just because he’s got some “buddies “ he’s got knowledge on the crawfish industry….
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6010 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:35 am to
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something different, just because he’s got some “buddies “ he’s got knowledge on the crawfish industry….


Don’t you know he “knows every farmer around Welsh”
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9833 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:37 am to
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How many crawfish baws do you think or doing this or even know what it is?



It is called "farming the government" for reasons.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
40741 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:50 am to
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you don't

You get paid on the avg of the last 3 years catch minus what you caught this year and then you get 75% of that unless you are a minority. The ladies at the FSA and most county committees that I talk to aren't letting people just peddle out bs numbers

The ones with the bigger checks per acre will be getting audited by national FSA also


Even at 75% it's still an honor system with no way to verify your claimed 3 year average.

You honestly believe anyone is going to report last year's catch after all the crying to get this program in place?

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The ones with the bigger checks per acre will be getting audited by national FSA also


To do what? The programs states you don't have to third party varify.
Posted by Joe_Dirte
The Boot
Member since Feb 2019
888 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:51 am to
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How many crawfish baws do you think or doing this or even know what it is?



all of them. farmers aren't uninformed retards that have no comms with the outside world. they are in constant communication with one another as well as the federal and state ag field offices which are located in each parish. they know exactly what financial programs are available to them

maybe the guy fishing 10 acres behind his mama's house on his 2 weeks in from a roustabout job isn't taking advantage, but the true commercial ops are aware of any assistance programs offered by the govt
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
40741 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:54 am to
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Why are you buddies with farmers if you are so angry with us?


I'm not angry. My whole family farms and thinks this way overkill and rife with fraud.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4840 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:03 am to
So if your family thinks it’s “fraud” they surely didn’t apply for try ELAP right?
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12358 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:14 am to
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My whole family farms and thinks this way overkill and rife with fraud.


So are they going to deposit the check?
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 9:15 am
Posted by White Bear
Deer-Thirty
Member since Jul 2014
17404 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:23 am to
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So are they going to deposit the check?
Even the staunchest conservative can reconcile cashing that cheese check, baw.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
40741 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:38 am to
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So if your family thinks it’s “fraud” they surely didn’t apply for try ELAP right?


I didn't say it is fraud. I said it's ripe for fraud.

I never said there were no loses, so they would be stupid not to apply. Did you?

Why are you so defensive? The whole point of the thread is to point out the program relies on unverifiable reporting.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6010 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:45 am to
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To do what? The programs states you don't have to third party varify.


You have to have it signed by buyers
Fsa can call buyers. Fsa can also ask for bank statements to see if money and names on checks match up
Fsa also already had 21 records and I’ve heard of people already getting busted trying to give different records for 2021
If National fsa gets involved they can ask for taxes, etc

You really don’t have a clue what you are talking about as usual when it comes to ag and probably should shut the frick up
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36592 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:54 am to
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You have to have it signed by buyers
Fsa can call buyers. Fsa can also ask for bank statements to see if money and names on checks match up
Fsa also already had 21 records and I’ve heard of people already getting busted trying to give different records for 2021
If National fsa gets involved they can ask for taxes, etc



So you're telling us that there are dishonest people in the crawfish industry? Do you see why noone believes them when they cry wolf?
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
Member since Oct 2006
7950 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:55 am to
My dad cashed in because my mom is meticulous and keeps accurate accounting records. My brother didn’t get a penny because he tries to hide most of his profits from his greedy ex wife and has very little records. To each his own.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6010 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:58 am to
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Do you see why noone believes them when they cry wolf?


There is a couple thousand crawfish farmers in the state. Stop listening to a couple buyers or a few farmers who like to talk to the media

Also the crawfish are the best/cheapest after Easter - that’s peak population/catch so buy your crawfish after then
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4840 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 9:59 am to
I’m defensive because you are spewing BS about how the farmers are basically getting free money. Once again all records are verified. Your family/buddies are either not telling you all the info, or you have no idea what you’re talking about. Also sounds like your family/buddies are bitching with a belly full. They taking the money but are claiming it’s fraud.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 10:01 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36592 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:00 am to
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There is a couple thousand crawfish farmers in the state. Stop listening to a couple buyers or a few farmers who like to talk to the media




I know the game. I was here in 2010 when the commercial fisherman were going to BP with tax returns showing they made 50K, BP paid them 50K, and they were pissed because they said they really made 200K it just wasn't on paper.


Story as old as time in commercial fishing. I know plenty of them
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28727 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:01 am to
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crawfish producers an opportunity to apply for ELAP assistance.



So since they are getting all this money we gonna see $2.50 a lb in March ?

Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4840 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:02 am to
There’s dishonesty in every industry. What industry is 100% honest?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36592 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 10:05 am to
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There’s dishonesty in every industry. What industry is 100% honest?





I'll put it to you like this: If just about every year is a bad year, why do people continue to do it? I ask crabbers here this all the time and they get pissed. If you haven't really made any money in 30 years, why are you continuing to bust your arse doing it?

I have not gotten a good answer yet.

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