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Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:30 pm to TDcline
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Louisiana
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act
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together
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:42 pm to TDcline
I just don’t see it happening.
I love Louisiana, but there’s little incentive for me to stay here beyond family.
Opportunity-wise, this state is a dead end outside of oil and gas/plant work.
I’m surrounded by idiots in public pretty much everywhere I go.
Half the state is either drunk, crazy, or high. A good number of those folks want to steal your shite or hurt you. Many of them are elected officials.
The instant I CAN leave, I WILL leave.
I love Louisiana, but there’s little incentive for me to stay here beyond family.
Opportunity-wise, this state is a dead end outside of oil and gas/plant work.
I’m surrounded by idiots in public pretty much everywhere I go.
Half the state is either drunk, crazy, or high. A good number of those folks want to steal your shite or hurt you. Many of them are elected officials.
The instant I CAN leave, I WILL leave.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:42 pm to TDcline
Literally never
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:19 pm to TDcline
I took my son to a “Family Fun Day” in the park Saturday. I live in NLA btw. It was put on by a guy running for the LA House. Upon arrival, I noticed papers upon trees that gave different information about him and his background, but the one that caught my attention was his, for lack of a better word, platform. 1st thing listed was to lower taxes. Great.
Below, however, he wanted to address LA’s ridiculously low education system and ridiculously high crime rate by increasing pay/funds/resources to local governments. Again, great. (I know this board has a low opinion of both teachers and law enforcement, but I think we could all agree that if these professions paid more, logically, they would attract higher caliber candidates). Noticing the obvious conflict between lowering taxes and increasing tax payer funding for 2 sizable professions, I read further. His “plan” to pay for this is to keep our human resources here by attracting more businesses(i.e. jobs) to come and stay here. So, while everyone would pay a lower % tax, having more tax payers in state would increase the total tax revenue to distribute. Again, great.
So, to summarize:
—lower taxes
—increase education
—lower crime
—bring in new businesses to create jobs
Fanfrickingtastic. Who wouldn’t want all that? As I talked to him, though, I asked him how. How can you attract new businesses with our shitty education and crime rates? How can you address that shitty education system and crime rates without—in his plan—attracting new businesses. You can’t have one without the other, so which comes 1st? And, how do you initially address it without...raising taxes? While very intelligent and well-spoken, he kind of danced around my question. He did evoke “Texas’s model” without really explaining what that was exactly. He may have mentioned something about toll roads, which is just another tax disguised as something else. Texas does have its shite together though, and I’d be fine with trying whatever model he was alluding to.
But the question I really wanted him to address—and to be fair, he was distracted by his kids, people leaving, the event wrapping up, so he didn’t intentionally evade anything. On the contrary, he was quite engaged—was how does an educator from NLA go down to Baton Rouge and somehow make any sort of tiny ripple(much less a wave) in the historically corrupt, good-ol-boy network that is Louisiana politics? How do you convince people do what they’ve never done? How do you get them to cut funding for social programs that a lot of their constituents that voted them in depend on? We are stuck in this damned chicken and egg shite cycle that there seems no hope of getting out of. The wheel needs to be broken, but how? Are we too far gone to ever loose the chains? I’m afraid so. But it’d be cooler if we did.
Below, however, he wanted to address LA’s ridiculously low education system and ridiculously high crime rate by increasing pay/funds/resources to local governments. Again, great. (I know this board has a low opinion of both teachers and law enforcement, but I think we could all agree that if these professions paid more, logically, they would attract higher caliber candidates). Noticing the obvious conflict between lowering taxes and increasing tax payer funding for 2 sizable professions, I read further. His “plan” to pay for this is to keep our human resources here by attracting more businesses(i.e. jobs) to come and stay here. So, while everyone would pay a lower % tax, having more tax payers in state would increase the total tax revenue to distribute. Again, great.
So, to summarize:
—lower taxes
—increase education
—lower crime
—bring in new businesses to create jobs
Fanfrickingtastic. Who wouldn’t want all that? As I talked to him, though, I asked him how. How can you attract new businesses with our shitty education and crime rates? How can you address that shitty education system and crime rates without—in his plan—attracting new businesses. You can’t have one without the other, so which comes 1st? And, how do you initially address it without...raising taxes? While very intelligent and well-spoken, he kind of danced around my question. He did evoke “Texas’s model” without really explaining what that was exactly. He may have mentioned something about toll roads, which is just another tax disguised as something else. Texas does have its shite together though, and I’d be fine with trying whatever model he was alluding to.
But the question I really wanted him to address—and to be fair, he was distracted by his kids, people leaving, the event wrapping up, so he didn’t intentionally evade anything. On the contrary, he was quite engaged—was how does an educator from NLA go down to Baton Rouge and somehow make any sort of tiny ripple(much less a wave) in the historically corrupt, good-ol-boy network that is Louisiana politics? How do you convince people do what they’ve never done? How do you get them to cut funding for social programs that a lot of their constituents that voted them in depend on? We are stuck in this damned chicken and egg shite cycle that there seems no hope of getting out of. The wheel needs to be broken, but how? Are we too far gone to ever loose the chains? I’m afraid so. But it’d be cooler if we did.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:23 pm to TDcline
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Do you feel like Louisiana will ever get its act together?
Not if they keep freaking out over a damn Gillette commercial.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:26 pm to TDcline
No. Louisiana has been dysfunctional since the days of Bienville.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:47 pm to TDcline
Louisiana is finished IMO. No hope for this state. This is why I’m moving to Texas as soon as I graduate college. I’ll only come back to go watch LSU, the Saints, and to visit family.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:49 pm to Hot Carl
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We are stuck in this damned chicken and egg shite cycle that there seems no hope of getting out of. The wheel needs to be broken, but how? Are we too far gone to ever loose the chains?
As a state you have to make one huge mental adjustment. You have to value public education, at all levels. That means you have to be willing to pay for it. Corrupt politicians count on voters being dumb and easily manipulated. If you keep following the mindless mantra of "lower taxes" you won't get anywhere. Public education is an investment, and until you believe that, you won't get anywhere.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:50 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Public education is an investment, and until you believe that, you won't get anywhere.
Louisiana is ranked mid 20s in education spending per pupil and has 48th ranked schools. Throwing more money at it probably wouldn't improve this much.
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:52 pm to fallguy_1978
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Louisiana is raked mid 20s in education spending per pupil and has 48th ranked schools. Throwing more money at it probably wouldn't improve this much.
Wow, that's quite a stat. OK, you got problems.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:54 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Throwing money in dysfunctional schools that act as Angola minor leagues will never fix the problem
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:56 pm to NIH
so what's the answer then dude if you can't fix the schools or with programs. what is the answer
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:56 pm to TDcline
No.
Never.
This state is hopeless.
I hope my kids escape and never move back.
Never.
This state is hopeless.
I hope my kids escape and never move back.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:59 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Every year more and more families in Louisiana are moving to Houston. The brain drain is real. You constantly hear the schools aren't so bad, it's way overblown. I urge those people to visit other school districts outside Louisiana.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 1:59 pm to Mr Perfect
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so what's the answer then dude if you can't fix the schools or with programs. what is the answer
We need to rewrite the state constitution and stop subsidizing poor people breeding. Won't likely ever happen though
Posted on 5/27/19 at 2:01 pm to TDcline
Never
Posted on 5/27/19 at 2:04 pm to Mr Perfect
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so what's the answer then dude if you can't fix the schools or with programs. what is the answer
government would have to stop subsidizing low IQ people to breed like rabbits
so, it'll never happen. no amount of teacher raises or facility upgrades can make kids or parents care more about schools.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 2:04 pm to sta4ever
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This is why I’m moving to Texas as soon as I graduate college. I’ll only come back to go watch LSU, the Saints, and to visit family.
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sta4ever
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 5/27/19 at 2:12 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Louisiana had its chance when Katrina washed out a lot of the filth.
Now politicians have encouraged the filth to move back in droves, and, well, you know the rest.
Now politicians have encouraged the filth to move back in droves, and, well, you know the rest.
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