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Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:54 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:54 am to
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Great career


Due to cronyism.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
26251 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:56 am to
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We can make everything here we don’t need imports


Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15954 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:17 pm to
Only in America could these Job Duties get you 50 bucks an Hour. Is it the Union that tells these people they are irreplaceable ? Seems to me any person could do this job for alot less
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:30 pm to
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So y’all know how this works?

The more they pay the workers…the more the companies charge for services…the more all of the goods will cost.

This is how and why prices for everyday items go up.

And people think that the companies just won’t make as much money…WRONG.

So companies refuse to accept making less profit and workers refuse to accept smaller wage increases. I don't blame either side really, I just don't understand why the typical reaction around here is to blame the union/empolyees and act like they're the bad guys
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
73786 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Unions are no longer organized labor. They are now organized crime. All Unions should be obolished.
This has been true over (at least) the past 100 years.

And I think “obolishing” should be more painful than just abolishing.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58337 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:36 pm to
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And yet your anger is directed at the blue collar worker and not the C Suite of the company lol


Not an economics buff are you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:37 pm to
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I just don't understand why the typical reaction around here is to blame the union/empolyees and act like they're the bad guys


Retards were offered a substantial raise and chose to hold their breath until they turn blue.

Management may have been bigger retards by thinking union personnel would be better than non union.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3155 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:38 pm to
62% over 6 years is wild but with inflation so high, it’s not overly drastic as a COL adjustment. Wish I could get 10% every year.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58337 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:40 pm to
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Whole lotta jealousy in this thread.


Indeed. Poors jealous of the C suites.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:45 pm to
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I just don't understand why the typical reaction around here is to blame the union/empolyees and act like they're the bad guys


Listen to the piece of shite mob boss running the ILA and you should be able to figure it out.

Then looks at what these guys already make for a low skill job.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58337 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:50 pm to
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Do you know how absolutely MINISCULE these dockworkers' pay is in the budgets of these huge multinational shipping companies?!


You tell us. What percentage of the budget is for union wages? Be specific.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36740 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:53 pm to
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Listen to the piece of shite mob boss running the ILA and you should be able to figure it out.

And he makes 900k per year
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 1:58 pm to
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, it’s not overly drastic as a COL adjustment


Its just double inflation.

No big deal. I'm sure this will not trickle down to other lowly skilled occupations.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:07 pm to
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You tell us. What percentage of the budget is for union wages? Be specific.


I'm not going to do that much research for a post on a message board.

That said, you look at the big players in the global shipping game and you're seeing collective revenues WELL over $100B.

There are 45,000 ILA members with an average pay of $50/hr. Take the agreed upon 60% pay increase over the next 6 years and annualize it to $5/hr for 45,000 workers. That's $10,400 per employee per year. $468M for the entire ILA membership or between .25-.5% of total annual revenues. Peanuts.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7097 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Let's face it, the longshoremen are in a position of power and can hold the country ransom! And they did!


Only because of government. Government in union states forces companies to contract with the unions. If not for those anti-competetive laws ports would be automated by now.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33086 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:09 pm to
For now, anyways

the companies have just tripled their efforts to implement automation now that the dock worker assholes have demanded more money
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58337 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:10 pm to
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I'm not going to do that much research for a post on a message board.


Because your claim is complete conjecture. I asked the percentage of their budget and you bring up revenue. You got called out for makings stuff up. Deal with it.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7097 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:11 pm to
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The union boss will become wealthy in the meantime.


He has made tens of millions if not more for the Genovese. He is well taken care of.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Because your claim is complete conjecture. I asked the percentage of their budget and you bring up revenue. You got called out for makings stuff up. Deal with it.


The frick do you think budgets are based on if not revenue?

Nah, you're pissed I actually took the time to layout the costs and proved they're miniscule.

It pays to care about nuance and facts instead of just joining the crowd and jabbering on about "durrrr price increases!!!" "durrr unions" "durrr capitalism".
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17786 posts
Posted on 10/4/24 at 2:14 pm to
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Y'all wanna get rid of unions because you aren't the ones who just got a 60% pay increase guaranteed over the course of the next 6 year


Hey genius, you do know that the American people are the ones paying for the 60% increase, right? Companies don't absorb rate hikes, we do.

frick unions.
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