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Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by DLauw
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:00 pm to
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But none of the masks compared with the neck fleece, which had 110 percent droplet transmission (10 percent higher than not wearing a mask).
I bet mine is up around 130%. It’s actually some kind of hair tie thing that my wife had. It’s so damn thin that it lets 150% of light and 500% of air through. It’s practically invisible AND air conditioned.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
43488 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:01 pm to
Is this the same group that verified the guilt of the lacrosse team?
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2165 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:23 pm to
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I wear a neck gaiter because it’s acceptable. They are easily the most breathable thing, so I can see where they’re probably not as effective.


Same; wore it because of the mandate and also because it was the most comfortable as I often wear it fishing. Placebo... but wgaf? Karen’s probably; can’t wait for the: Hey, did you know that mask you are wearing puts us all at risk?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41876 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:29 pm to
I’ve been saying this shite from the start. If you are going to make a mask mandate, make a fricking mask mandate. Don’t allow gaiter style masks made of breathable fabric. Don’t allow old shirts, don’t allow bandanas. Require it to be of sturdy material that would stop droplet transmission, because If you make a mask mandate but allow all the above, all you are doing us putting something in place to make you feel like you’re doing something but you’re not actually doing squat.

Rant over.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:30 pm to
I am surprised to see quite a few have significant drops in droplet counts.

However, I'm sure it's a more "controlled" tests result, not taking into account how much people touch their faces adjusting them, continue to use unwashed ones, not wearing them properly all the time, etc.

It reminds me of some word problems from engineering school where we were to "assume no friction" in calculating some forces. But, when you actually tested it in the lab environment, the results would vary greatly due to, um, friction.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20531 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:42 pm to
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That's not even possible


It’s literally explained for you. Just read.
Posted by wt9
Savannah, Ga
Member since Nov 2011
1123 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:58 pm to
The article is a little deceptive. The cloth masks are actually more like 10-50% not .1 - .4%. So the n95 masks are 100 times better than cloth and some cloth masks are only 50% better than no mask.
That does count that the study tested fitted masks or best case fit. A poorly fit mask may reduce efficiency by 90%. The plant baws no this.

So if you are a mask person, only get near the people with n95 masks.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15132 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:07 pm to
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This is something that I've wondered for a while. If the mask filter the larger droplets leaving only smaller droplets


Water balloon at screen door.
Posted by ipodking
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:11 pm to
frick I just ordered a couple more of them
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7555 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:12 pm to
These results are not surprising in a lab.

I'm waiting for a study that tracks a mask in the real world.

The dirty, ill fitting, improperly handled, improperly sanitized, improperly stored mask as it moves across our environment.

Those results would drive any mask advantage into the ground.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13077 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:14 pm to
I prefer wearing a surgical mask to a gaiter. Not really sure why.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:14 pm to
gaiters don't fit right on me. they fall right off if I'm talking.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:33 pm to
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But none of the masks compared with the neck fleece, which had 110 percent droplet transmission (10 percent higher than not wearing a mask).


Which is like 50% of people

So why are the infections slowing?

Hint: herd immunity. Won’t hear Duke talk about that
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 7:33 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138485 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:48 pm to
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It’s literally explained for you. Just read.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15988 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:49 pm to
Which one is the worst? That’s the one I’m gonna wear to LSU everyday
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:54 pm to
yes it does. It collects virus and then folds and moves around. Tons of moving facial virus surface area is worse than not wearing a mask at all.

Wear freaking approved masks and don't ever put them on backwards or wrong. Otherwise, you could increase your risk.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23323 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:00 pm to
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Duke Med School Attacking the Neck Gaiter


Seems like we have an unlimited amount of opinions out there. I just hope those medical persons are also looking at treatments and vaccines. Ultimately those have to be better than face masks or neck gaiters.
Posted by LSUrme
JP
Member since Oct 2005
5460 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:02 pm to
Well fold it over 3x. Bam, solved.

Go Gaiter.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6066 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:42 pm to
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However, I'm sure it's a more "controlled" tests result, not taking into account how much people touch their faces adjusting them, continue to use unwashed ones, not wearing them properly all the time, etc.


This, and I think they only testing droplets produced by talking. What about coughing and sneezing where the droplets are moving at a faster rate? Do more get pushed through the "cheese grater" producing more small droplets when not wearing a mask would produce one large droplet falling to the floor?
Posted by Drew Brews
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Member since Feb 2018
1958 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:54 pm to
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all you are doing us putting something in place to make you feel like you’re doing something but you’re not actually doing squat.


They know, but they don’t care. It’s about optics. That’s it.
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