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re: FDA Grants Full Approval for Vaccine
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:45 am to rd280z
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:45 am to rd280z
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since it was a rush job forced on the FDA.
Which one of the first 3 trial phases were shorter than normal?
Which one of those trials had a lower subject population than normal?
What medicine has ever been submitted for approval with as large of a population for the Phase 4 trial than the Pfizer vaccine?
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:46 am to rd280z
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I don't think this will make people rush out to get vaccinated since it was a rush job forced on the FDA.
It was done so employers can mandate the shot. It was 100% political.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:47 am to TDTOM
quote:You are making this up to justify your beliefs. Sad.
It was done so employers can mandate the shot. It was 100% political.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:47 am to TDTOM
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It was done so employers can mandate the shot. It was 100% political.
So FDA approvals are only done so employers can mandate drugs?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:47 am to ell_13
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True. The issue is people not believing they are at risk when they actually are. I could justify me getting it simply because my BP is above normal in the pre-hypertension range. Doubt most people even know their blood pressure.
Anyone who is considered obese should be getting it. It’s one the comorbidities that can contribute to having higher levels of inflammation. When you get COVID and you already have higher levels of inflammation it puts you at risk for more severe disease.
But that would require a bunch of baws who played high school football and lifted for the last time in the early 00s to recognize they’re obese.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:48 am to TDTOM
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It was done so employers can mandate the shot. It was 100% political.
then why wait at all? 
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:48 am to TDTOM
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It was done so employers can mandate the shot. It was 100% political.
why wait a year?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:48 am to rd280z
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I don't think this will make people rush out to get vaccinated since it was a rush job forced on the FDA.
I’m not well-versed enough on the subject, but is it really considered ‘rushed’ when we have much more advanced technology than vaccines in the past that were perceived to be rushed (I guess Polio for example)? Please correct me if I’m wrong though.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:49 am to Slagathor
quote:ignore the knuckle dragger.
then why wait at all?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:49 am to TDTOM
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It was done so employers can mandate the shot. It was 100% political.
Funny the EEOC has noted from the beginning that vaccines could be employer mandated even under EUA. Justice Barrett let the University of Indiana students know they could be required to be vaxxed at a time when there was no vaccine that had a BL.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:50 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
So using your metric of hospitalizations and deaths to criticize different groups… why does a healthy 12 year old need to be vaccinated?
Didn't the approval say 16 and older?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:50 am to Salmon
Let's make a running list of the new excuses:
- They don't have liability!
- It was only approved because politics!
- It's still an experimental DNA changing vaccine!
- They don't have liability!
- It was only approved because politics!
- It's still an experimental DNA changing vaccine!
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:50 am to ell_13
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True. The issue is people not believing they are at risk when they actually are. I could justify me getting it simply because my BP is above normal in the pre-hypertension range. Doubt most people even know their blood pressure.
So everyone should be treated like kids because you think most people are stupid?
That’s great logic
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:50 am to lsupride87
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Not really
They will go absolutely nowhere. There is a ton of case law already on this
Those are irrelevant. FDA classifies these as "gene therapy" and not vaccines. It will be fascinating to see how that plays out in courts.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:51 am to BluegrassBelle
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But that would require a bunch of baws who played high school football and lifted for the last time in the early 00s to recognize they’re obese.
You lifted that from Mingo.
Be careful someone will claim you two are alters.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:51 am to WaWaWeeWa
That’s not what I said. I was explaining why there’s such a spike in hospitalizations. Because people who are at risk aren’t getting it. I thought it was an obvious statement. I even said “true” because I was agreeing that they shouldn’t be mandated. Don’t be so defensive.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:52 am to calcotron
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Didn't the approval say 16 and older?
Did it?
That’s interesting the emergency approval was for 12 and up. Now it’s only approved for 16 and up?
Why?
What about those kids 12-16 that got vaccinated? Were they not supposed to get vaccinated? This is why all of this is bullshite. It’s going to be just like the masks. Masks don’t work… then masks work and are required.
That’s why it should be everyone choice.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:52 am to ell_13
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Doubt most people even know their blood pressure.
105/66
Before I read this board
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:52 am to ElRoos
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I’m not well-versed enough on the subject, but is it really considered ‘rushed’ when we have much more advanced technology than vaccines in the past that were perceived to be rushed (I guess Polio for example)? Please correct me if I’m wrong though.
The only thing rushed about it, is that unlike other vaccines and meds it didn’t have to wait for significant amounts of funding to conduct large scale trials and it didn’t have to jump through a ton of red, bureaucratic tape.
When this all first started there was a guy down at Miami U who had been working on a vaccine for the common cold for years. They finally had to fold up research because they just didn’t have the funding. Part of his work was used in basis for some of the vaccines.
When the whole world is interested in getting a vaccine developed, it tends to make it happen a smidge faster.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:52 am to frequent flyer
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So FDA approvals are only done so employers can mandate drugs?
Not all of them. Only the ones that are done in 1.5 years. Hell Phase 3 alone usually takes 3.5 years.
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