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re: I am an engineer
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:03 am to RoosterCogburn585
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:03 am to RoosterCogburn585
I take more of an issue with the "administrative state" and the people who only work in that space. It doesn't matter how shitty the job is, as long as everybody stays within the "process", which for some people indemnifies them of all accountability. Both engineers and technicians can succumb to this industry ailment. I've been a technician for almost 20 years and fixed anything you can possibly think of. I've also got 3 college degrees, including an MBA. That MBA showed me the dark side, where all this admin nonsense generates from. I no longer blame engineers for the things I think they did wrong. We're all just trying to survive.
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:13 am to Hangit
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trick question. They came with a standard 235 and an optional 265. If you have added an aftermarket 327, set initial timing to 6-8° BTDC (before top dead center) with vacuum advance disconnected. Total timing (initial + mechanical) should be 34-36° BTDC at roughly 3,000–3,500 RPM.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:13 am to RoosterCogburn585
I am a managing member at a valve company. Engineers love to tinker and try different things. Most of them belong in R&D with a string but limited budget to try and coral them.
The more practical solution oriented engineers should be working with sales guys.
The more practical solution oriented engineers should be working with sales guys.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:16 am to RoosterCogburn585
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And I think engineers love to overcomplicate issues.
That is what engineering mentality should be. Engineers have to engineer to defend against stupid. Stupid is brilliant and can find ways around everything. Engineers constantly get burned by things that were never expected so they are naturally inclined to evaluate every aspect from every perspective they can in order to try and not get burned again.
You do NOT want engineers just looking for the easy way.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:17 am to RoosterCogburn585
I’m a Civil PE, and it isn’t rocket science, but a lot of the “non-engineering”/paper pushing shite we have to do is because of how much you’re dealing with the public, and how much public entities assume responsibility.
And since public entities are always getting sued, there’s so much red tape to follow before a plan set even makes it out to bid. Standards, specs, procedures are always changing year to year. Split funding on a lot of projects forces you to follow multiple guidelines.
It makes it to where just designing road or bridge plans is a small percentage of your job, and in most cases, left to lower level engineers right out of college. Because the designing/math is still fresh in their head, but they don’t understand policy and procedure yet.
Some baw working for a contractor might have more field knowledge, wisdom, common sense and experience, but ask him if he likes dealing with all the bullshite paperwork. But I don’t have anything against guys working in the field I like to lean on their knowledge.
And since public entities are always getting sued, there’s so much red tape to follow before a plan set even makes it out to bid. Standards, specs, procedures are always changing year to year. Split funding on a lot of projects forces you to follow multiple guidelines.
It makes it to where just designing road or bridge plans is a small percentage of your job, and in most cases, left to lower level engineers right out of college. Because the designing/math is still fresh in their head, but they don’t understand policy and procedure yet.
Some baw working for a contractor might have more field knowledge, wisdom, common sense and experience, but ask him if he likes dealing with all the bullshite paperwork. But I don’t have anything against guys working in the field I like to lean on their knowledge.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:18 am to Fat and Happy
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Doesn’t matter if nothing has ever happened in 50 years. Then they voice, well it COULD happen. (22-24 year olds that have never worked a real job before)
Well no shite, in some astronomically tiny percentage, some crazy almost impossible situation could occur and so it was important tp change something simple to unnecessary
but that is where the risk/liability comes in for engineers. If an engineer thinks of something that "could" happen, no matter how unlikely, and they dont do something to protect from it...AND then down the road it happens, they can be held liable in a court a law.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:19 am to Jon A thon
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That's a bullshite question
Does that mean you can’t answer it?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:21 am to Strannix
Yea, there was a shortage of engineers, so of course they just lowered standards instead of lobbying for higher salaries.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:23 am to notsince98
Exactly. Their name and livelihood is the one going on the stamped plans.
And most guidelines we have to follow, at least in the civil world, calculate the cutoff between under-designing and over-designing. There’s got to be some factors of safety, but at a certain point it becomes uneconomical to over-design.
And most guidelines we have to follow, at least in the civil world, calculate the cutoff between under-designing and over-designing. There’s got to be some factors of safety, but at a certain point it becomes uneconomical to over-design.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:37 am to RoosterCogburn585
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I am an engineer
I'll tell you the same thing I tell all engineers:
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:41 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Well I am not a real engineer then. Got a degree in mechanical engineering from LSU, but never went down the PE path.
Correct. Just like having an accounting degree doesn't make you a CPA, a law degree doesn't make you a lawyer, etc...
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:43 am to baytiger11
I can only think of one instance that I've seen under design be an issue on the civil side. I see over on damn near every project. But if i had to put my stamp on the drawings, I'd probably do the same as well.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:44 am to baytiger11
I can only think of one instance that I've seen under design be an issue on the civil side. I see over on almost every project. But if i had to put my stamp on the drawings, I'd probably do the same as well.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:47 am to RoosterCogburn585
Buddy of mine is a retired Double E... He basically analyzes everything he does...
He and his wife were painting their house, he got samples of color in every finish, and painted them in different sections of their house where the sun comes through the windows...
He rode with me in Endymion, when he purchased beads, he had his calculator out, making sure he got the best bang for his buck.. I was like, dude, you drive a fricking Porsche, and you're basically throwing this shite to strangers.. Get your shite and lets go...
He and his wife were painting their house, he got samples of color in every finish, and painted them in different sections of their house where the sun comes through the windows...
He rode with me in Endymion, when he purchased beads, he had his calculator out, making sure he got the best bang for his buck.. I was like, dude, you drive a fricking Porsche, and you're basically throwing this shite to strangers.. Get your shite and lets go...
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:49 am to baytiger11
Boomer Chem engr, last class to do tray to tray calculations with a slide rule and managed a couple thousand operation engineers in 6 different countries and states.
Observations
1. Engineers need to understand their contribution to economics more, profit for the shareholders is your job assignment. Profit is what is left over.
2. Engineers will learn a lot more by listening instead of talking
3. Large engineering companies know nothing about how processes operate. Journey man engineer at Bechtle or Fluor will not understand the difference between thermodynamic and thermostatic steam traps
4. Best time to gather operation data from shift is between 7 pm and 2 am.
5. The procedure with the most verbiage is the worst.
6. Justifying process modification based on huge product flow and process change less than instrument accuracy is a waste of time.
7. The standard for a field safety modification should be, "can you explain the nexus between scope and incident frequency."
8. On capital projects, operability [ valve access, spare pumps, instrument redundancy, instrument maintenance, process equipment internal maintenance inspection, lifting, Operator DCS face plate design etc] will always be protested as cost adders by the contractor and supported by owners Proj. mgr who does not have to operate it.
9. A most important set of capital project contract documents that gets overlooked is completion criteria and turnover process.
10. HR is a prime department to be outsourced
Observations
1. Engineers need to understand their contribution to economics more, profit for the shareholders is your job assignment. Profit is what is left over.
2. Engineers will learn a lot more by listening instead of talking
3. Large engineering companies know nothing about how processes operate. Journey man engineer at Bechtle or Fluor will not understand the difference between thermodynamic and thermostatic steam traps
4. Best time to gather operation data from shift is between 7 pm and 2 am.
5. The procedure with the most verbiage is the worst.
6. Justifying process modification based on huge product flow and process change less than instrument accuracy is a waste of time.
7. The standard for a field safety modification should be, "can you explain the nexus between scope and incident frequency."
8. On capital projects, operability [ valve access, spare pumps, instrument redundancy, instrument maintenance, process equipment internal maintenance inspection, lifting, Operator DCS face plate design etc] will always be protested as cost adders by the contractor and supported by owners Proj. mgr who does not have to operate it.
9. A most important set of capital project contract documents that gets overlooked is completion criteria and turnover process.
10. HR is a prime department to be outsourced
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:50 am to RoosterCogburn585
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I think engineers love to overcomplicate issues.
Is there such thing as a Master Engineer? If so, my wife qualifies based on this logic.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:51 am to Homey the Clown
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I love when people who have an engineering degree call themselves engineers. Unless you are a P.E., you aren't an engineer.
Factually incorrect, and I have a PE
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:51 am to RoosterCogburn585
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I am an engineer
The cool kind that drives trains ?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:52 am to UptownJoeBrown
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I knew an engineer that had to have all the screw slits holding outlet covers on in his house be in the vertical position.
What a psycho.... everyone knows they should all be horizontal
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:53 am to lostinbr
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My favorite is when they have a group of 5+ people spending 2+ months compiling every specification ever written that could possibly be related to those 2 ISOs, but then they don’t fill in any of the blanks on the one datasheet that would actually tell you what they want.
oughta see a group of 4 engineers get together to try and come up with a recipe to cook a chili...
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