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re: It’s over, remote bros: Zoom tells employees “Back to the office”

Posted on 8/7/23 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 3:13 pm to
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all employees within 50 miles of a company office to go in at least two days a week


Lol imagine 100 mile commute for a day of work haha
Posted by VictoryTiger
Member since Aug 2023
382 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:06 am to
Lots of places contract devs to avoid paying healthcare insurance costs. How tenured were they? If they’re young, this makes sense, but if they have 5-10 years of experience, it’s probably a bad sign that they companies they work for are trying to reduce bloat. If they’re small caps, it’s a bad sign economically
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1454 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:45 am to
If they are trying get WFH to quit, why not make it 5 days a week back to the office ?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87894 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:47 am to
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We're outliers, obviously. We get to work side by side on a large plot of land. It's pretty nice.


So you spend every minute of the day with your wife?

Hard pass on that.

Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37275 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:48 am to
In a year most folks will be back in the office at least 3 days a week.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87894 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:48 am to
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Lol imagine 100 mile commute for a day of work haha



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On average the Wilmington, DE to Washington, DC train time is 1 h 30 min covering the 99 mile (159 km) long trip, but the journey time can vary depending on specific dates or if traveling on weekends and holidays.


the Joe Biden way...
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 9:52 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87894 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:51 am to
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Quit caring about these places. Quit caring about company culture. Quit thinking that your coworkers are your friends. Your friends are your friends. Your family is your family.


What is your Job and how old are you? try saying this on a job interview as a 22 year old.

Btw caring about your job, keeping steady employment, putting food on the table, that is caring about your family.
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 9:53 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
138184 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:54 am to
There is nothing wrong with WFH if the job can be done. I used to walk around our office and you would see people online at non work sites, and standing around talking.

How does WFH differ from in person if the job has internet access requirements?
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:55 am to
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all employees within 50 miles of a company office to go in at least two days a week


Lol imagine 100 mile commute for a day of work haha


A shite ton of people do this and more. But imagine 50 miles into a city, where it takes two hours each way. An 8 hour work day becomes 12. To add insult to injury, parking may be non-existent or cost hundreds of dollars per month, so you are stuck riding public transportation, meaning your trip could take HOURS each way.

The perception here is WFH means less hours working, but the reality is your work day starts and ends whenever you want. It's not uncommon for me to be on with someone at 8 am or 8pm.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37275 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:56 am to
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How does WFH differ from in person if the job has internet access requirements?


You have to ask your employer that. I think it’s about control. That’s it.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
90603 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:56 am to
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What is your Job and how old are you? try saying this on a job interview as a 22 year old.



I checked out of this thread yesterday, I'm not a huge wfh proponent, but don't have strong feelings one way or the other, when you're at the beginning of your career you have to establish yourself a bit to get a little leverage before making any demands, that's not a sign of weakness, you've just got to build a resume first

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Btw caring about your job, keeping steady employment, putting food on the table, that is caring about your family.



you are wise beyond your years, good luck
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:56 am to
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In a year most folks will be back in the office at least 3 days a week.


Even folks that have never been in an office? Dang.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37275 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:59 am to
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Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
38714 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:05 am to
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Ah yes. Working at the house in pajamas and playing vidya games while in a "meeting." The elite minds of our society.

People that are going to slack are going to do so regardless of whether they’re in office or remote; in office just gives the illusion of productivity to insecure management.

People that treat remote as a part time vacation, I have no sympathy for. The key to successful WFH is easy, get up timely, get ready and dressed appropriately and do your shite. Be proactively available and respond in a timely manner. IOW treat home like office as much as possible.
Posted by Tdogg78
Member since Aug 2018
235 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 12:25 pm to
If your job can be done remotely, then it can be done remotely by someone who will do it for less salary.

India has a large educated population along with many other countries. They work for less.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
77548 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 12:28 pm to
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your job can be done remotely, then it can be done remotely by someone who will do it for less salary


Well, that just isn't true.

You can have detailed knowledge of a process or situation that only comes with experience onsite.

Could also have a distinguished place within your industry or be a SME.
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27359 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 12:32 pm to
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f your job can be done remotely, then it can be done remotely by someone who will do it for less salary.
not always true...eg, salesperson who is really good at their job.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
7938 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 12:43 pm to
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If your job can be done remotely, then it can be done remotely by someone who will do it for less salary.


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not always true


Exactly. Sports website owner can be done from anywhere
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
71727 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 1:13 pm to
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Plus you don’t have to worry about encountering any Cyclops, Sirens or Calypso because you aren’t commuting.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23875 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:09 pm to
This board continually vastly underestimates the amount of adults that need managed, many of which have to have shitty managers managing them because good managers don't want to work with shitty employees.

WFH is great for the minority of people that can manage themselves and their job on their own. I'd put that at maybe 25%, but I made it up.

The fact is that some sort of management of your time by a superior is needed for most people. Someone looking over your shoulder is needed for most people. Most that downvote me are probably in that group, they just can't admit it.

Finally, there are likely a lot of bad real estate contracts out there but real estate space is a pretty small portion of an employee cost for many companies. I mean how much is a cubicle cost on a monthly basis? $200 at most on average? Less than $500 for sure, that's less than a 401k, healthcare premium, etc. for most employees.
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