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Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:46 pm to
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In some regard, maybe.

But Cobain's songs were extremely Beatles influenced in composition.

Other bands may have influenced his aesthetic, but the Beatles were his primary influence for composition.
He stated many times that The Pixies were a huge influence on his music and the entire genre.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:50 pm to
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Still better than AIC
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I can't believe this post has as many upvotes as it does downvotes. Facelift was released a year before Nevermind. It's an absolutely amazing album.
Never underestimate tOT.

Dirt.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

In some regard, maybe.

But Cobain's songs were extremely Beatles influenced in composition.

Other bands may have influenced his aesthetic, but the Beatles were his primary influence for composition.
Just from Google AI…

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Kurt Cobain was a massive fan of the Pixies, citing them as a primary influence on Nirvana's sound, particularly their signature quiet-loud dynamics, melodies, and surreal lyrics, with Cobain famously saying he was "basically trying to rip off the Pixies" when writing "Smells Like Teen Spirit". He deeply admired their unconventional song structures, unique sound, and genre-bending approach, with albums like Surfer Rosa and Doolittle serving as major inspiration.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:12 pm to
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Or you could read the actual article.


I'd love to, but OP only provided a shitty Twitter link instead of a link to a Daily Mail article.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:17 pm to
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Even in Nirvana — the Beatles [were] such a huge influence. Kurt loved The Beatles because it was just so simple. Well, it seemed simple… they sound easy to play, but you know what? They’re f**cking hard!"
—Dave Grohl: Access Online

Everyone talks about Kurt's love affair with ... the whole punk scene, but he was also a huge Beatles fan, and the more time we spent together the more obvious their influence on his songwriting became.
—Butch Vig: NME


Like I said, other bands may have influenced aspects of his aesthetic, but compositionally he was heavily influenced by the Beatles.

I know it's a lost art to understand this among populists, but two things can be true at once.

This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 8:18 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:27 pm to
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Like I said, other bands may have influenced aspects of his aesthetic, but compositionally he was heavily influenced by the Beatles.

I know it's a lost art to understand this among populists, but two things can be true at once.
Of course. Can't even acknowledge after initially mostly dismissing. I live in a world with stupid people.

I'm going to guess you're a PT poster - I'll look it up after and edit.


ETA: Knew it! PT posters are generally the least intelligent. It's like a badge. Scarlet Letter of TD posters.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 8:30 pm
Posted by NeilArmstrong1969
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:28 pm to
This isn’t a surprise to anyone who’s seen Soaked in Bleach, Seattle PD botched this case from the start. It was physically impossible for Kurt to have killed himself, toxicology reports show he had 4 times the legal dose of heroin in him and would’ve been incapacitated as soon as he shot up. Courtney killed him and then hired a PI afterwards and the PI’s conclusion was that she was the one responsible
Posted by aib799
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:29 pm to
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They are nu-metal which is a different genre anyway.


Not really nu metal like Korn or Limp Bizkit, ypu could tell from their sound they were heavily influenced by Nirvana.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Abadeebadaba
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:31 pm to
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His death is the only reason his music was more than Puddle of Mudds’s.

This hurr durr is so wild that you sound like a Tusken Raider.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:55 pm to
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quote:Or you could read the actual article.

I'd love to, but OP only provided a shitty Twitter link instead of a link to a Daily Mail article.

I wasn’t replying to you.

And you can click the X link to open the article.
Dummy.
Posted by El Eh Shu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
928 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:56 pm to
98% of note seems like he was quitting music. Thennnnn

quote:

Frances and Courtney, I'll be at your alter.
Please Keep Going Courtney.
For Frances
For her life which will be so much happier
without me. I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU!


Courtney did it.

Posted by Frank Belavis
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2020
340 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:08 am to
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The peer-reviewed paper presented ten points of evidence suggesting Cobain was confronted by one or more assailants who forced a heroin overdose to incapacitate him, before one of them shot him in the head, placed the gun in his arms and left behind a forged suicide note.

I don't think Courtney had to force him to do it
Posted by bgtiger
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:55 am to
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His death is the only reason his music was more than Puddle of Mudds’s.


Idiot
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:56 am to
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He stated many times that The Pixies were a huge influence on his music and the entire genre.


I would say Killing Joke also inspired him. So much that they were suing him at the time of his death.

Curt admitted to being influenced by over 50 musicians. Many of them not even close to his genre. No one can point to just one.
Posted by bgtiger
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:59 am to
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There are several people who this could be said about. One example I always use is Keith Whitley, he was a great country singer but people act like he was the greatest ever. It is only because they die young and tragically. They never got to the point in their career where their music or movies bombed so they are worshipped.


I don’t know how old you people are, but Cobain and Nirvana were one of the top bands in the world and Kurt was a megastar before his death.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
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Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:13 am to
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His death is the only reason his music was more than Puddle of Mudds’s.


Cobain and Nirvana pretty much killed “the 80’s” era of music and ushered in a brand new era.

And I’m one who liked “the 80’s”.

Very silly statement on your part.

Posted by SludgeFactory
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:16 am to
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Still better than AIC


I know you didn't
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:30 am to
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That shotgun would have been so cumbersome to shoot yourself in the head with. That's the main thing that bothered me about it.



Cumbersome, yes------------doable, also yes. I only know of one guy who did himself in that way and he was a skinny little runt of a guy at the time of his demise.

He was a guy with some mental health issues and heavily relied on his dad to get through life. His dad died and a few weeks later he made his last decision.

He did the shotgun suicide and took the better part of his head clean off.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:48 am to
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Deaths that are not natural causes are classified as homicides in police reports. Suicides are classified as homicides.


Coroners do it differently. They classify deaths in one of four ways: homicide, suicide, accidental, or natural.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:49 am to
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Kurt Cobain's death 'was a homicide' according to new private forensic findings

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