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re: Louisiana Doctor declares COVID 19 response- a HOAX - agrees with 600 doctors
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:33 am to davidsheroes
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:33 am to davidsheroes
Overreacting doesn't make it a hoax.
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:50 am to OysterPoBoy
I'm assuming this is a troll, but its kinda scary that there are actually people who are dumb enough to believe stuff like this.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:33 am to davidsheroes
600 doctors isn’t a lot of doctors.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:23 pm to BiggerBear
BiggerBear
upvote for your sig line...
upvote for your sig line...
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:34 pm to TBoy
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Covid isn't a hoax
agreed.
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The response to Covid isn't a hoax
I tend to believe that it is, however i am far from an expert. thus, my asking for counter arguments.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:37 pm to BiggerBear
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Have you no skepticism of such an extraordinary claim that you must await an argument against it to make up your mind?
quite to the contrary. I actually listen to people with differing opinions than what my instinct may be....then I form an opinion.
Listen then learn then form an educated opinion. in that order....Unless you are listening to a$$holes.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:51 pm to BuddyRoeaux
It looks he just learned some new words today, hmm MMR and 5G sound scary and weird.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:57 pm to davidsheroes
I watched a women’s tennis match last night - the chair ump was wearing a n95 mask and latex gloves. 95% of the rules on this have been totally for show.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:59 pm to OysterPoBoy
I live in Oregon and there are still pain management doctors here. Know why? Because cannabis just isn't effective enough for certain types of pain/injuries. It helps no doubt, but it just isn't effective for some things. You really want to just smoke before you have a surgery or after a car crash? There needs to be both.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 1:09 pm to terriblegreen
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We never "had" to expand. The models indicated we needed to. And I don't blame the state for doing so, but we never hit critical mass where the hospitals ran out of room or capabilities. I was there. I saw it first hand. The massive hospital built in the Convention Center was never used as intended. They housed handfuls of positive patients at a time, but those were patients who couldn't pay at hospitals (mostly homeless). The state took them for free. But even New Orleans never exceeded their capacity. In fact, as early as the first week of April, they (Nola hospitals) were demanding to return to normal practices so they could make money off of elective procedures.
I'd argue to say we did have to expand. Maybe not building a hospital like China, but every hospital in the city had to open up new beds that were previously not available or used for another situation. Agreed that the convention center was a farce to begin with, the requirements to get in and stay in there was a sham and that's the BIGGEST issue in all of this. I wouldn't even call it a hospital because their capabilities were minimal. We had patients transferred FROM there to our hospital because it was "too much to handle" (Literally discharged the next day).
UMCNO opened up tower 3's ICU during the peak and had to be staffed by a separate team than their normal MICU team.
Ochsner converted certain certain floors into ICUs across their hospital system that had capability to.
Another hospital (I worked at this one for 2 months) essentially doubled their ICU beds by opening ICU annexes and even a new ICU floor ahead of schedule and went from a 16 bed capacity to 32.
Hospitals in major areas (NY and Seattle for example), I had colleagues who also had to place continuous bipap or continuous NRB on the med/surg floors, same as us across new orleans. That's not normal medicine, pre-covid those go into the ICU because they need more eyes on them.
Major hospitals only started having downtrending or very stable numbers around mid-april and started to going back to a normal practice. Of course surgeons wanted to go back to elective procedures though, they're making nothing otherwise.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 1:12 pm to davidsheroes
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Are you willing to ignore 600 doctors who declares that the lockdown should not have happened?
Yes
Posted on 5/27/20 at 1:17 pm to davidsheroes
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Are you willing to ignore 600 doctors who declares that the lockdown should not have happened?
My nephew and his wife are both doctors who think the lockdown SHOULD have happened. Also, neither of them are nearly as qualified as I am to judge it, and I'm not a doctor, just a guy who has read a lot more than they have about it. Only a tiny handful of doctors are qualified to opine on this and be taken seriously.
BTW, my opinion is that we should have locked down, and we should have reopened about four weeks later. And my dog agrees with me!
Posted on 5/27/20 at 1:25 pm to H I McDunnough
The in game and Monday morning quarterbacking will go on for years about COVID19.
The one thing I have taken away is of all the countries South Korea was one of the ones that had a near-perfect response. They have had 5 deaths per million where the US total is 60 times that. They obviously have a more compliant population especially with mask-wearing and the acceptance of contact tracing. There are certainly other variables but their response has be significantly more effective than ours. Sweden took a different approach and it still may end up more effective than ours (they have had about a 33% higher death per capita than the US currently) but Korea's death rate is not going to go up 80 times what it is now.
The one thing I have taken away is of all the countries South Korea was one of the ones that had a near-perfect response. They have had 5 deaths per million where the US total is 60 times that. They obviously have a more compliant population especially with mask-wearing and the acceptance of contact tracing. There are certainly other variables but their response has be significantly more effective than ours. Sweden took a different approach and it still may end up more effective than ours (they have had about a 33% higher death per capita than the US currently) but Korea's death rate is not going to go up 80 times what it is now.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 1:26 pm to OysterPoBoy
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OysterPoBoy
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I’ve said this from the beginning. It’s likely a latent molecule left over from the MMR vaccine that is being activated by the 5G rollout. Accidentally or on purpose I’m not sure yet but it is interesting if you follow Bill Gates’ timeline throughout this crisis.
el gaucho better watch his back, Poboy just put his arse on notice
Very effective, judging by the DVs
Posted on 5/27/20 at 1:36 pm to RazorBroncs
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Very effective, judging by the DVs
It was so effective, you've had multiple posters criticizing a post four posts below OysterPoBoy's
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Would love to hear someone argue against what’s he just said......
that is responding to the OP.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 1:37 pm to davidsheroes
People with an understanding of why Democrats do what they do knew this within a few days following the shutdown. What makes this guy special ? Because he's a doctor ?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 1:44 pm to ccomeaux
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People with an understanding of why Democrats do what they do knew this within a few days following the shutdown.
How the hell do you even begin to believe that the response to Covid was a "Democratic" response? Trump held daily pressers about the aggressive response. Is he a Democrat? Countries around the world had even more drastic responses. Are they Democrats? Is every doctor on the floor in every hospital which worked on Covid patients a Democrat?
This is ignorance on top of stupidity.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:00 pm to htran90
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UMCNO opened up tower 3's ICU during the peak and had to be staffed by a separate team than their normal MICU team.
OLOL opened the old children's section and multiple med-surg floors were converted to COVID units. And they had a very high census for the COVID units at the peak.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:07 pm to OysterPoBoy
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a latent molecule left over from the MMR vaccine that is being activated by the 5G rollout. Accidentally or on purpose I’m not sure yet but it is interesting if you follow Bill Gates’ timeline throughout this crisis.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 3:10 pm to davidsheroes
The heroes are not the worshipped hospital workers.
They are the 40 million unemployed deliberately by government fiat.
Add millions more denied necessary tests & procedures, with their condition worsening, so the feeble minded can "feel safe".
Anybody give a shite about them?
They are the 40 million unemployed deliberately by government fiat.
Add millions more denied necessary tests & procedures, with their condition worsening, so the feeble minded can "feel safe".
Anybody give a shite about them?
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