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Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by Gatorsfan1116
Member since May 2016
62 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:58 pm to
Since June 2011. I tried everything, pain shots, chiropractic care, massage therapy, dry needling, weight loss, epidural steroid injections, radio frequency ablation therapy,gravity inversion table, pain pills of all sorts, muscle relaxers, nerve blockers. Surgery was my final and last resort.
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:24 pm to
Compressed a disc at 21. Went to Chiro at the time who said that without treatment I would hurt until the nerve wore out and then I would lose function.

Fast forward to today. I’m 41. For 20 years I have been unable to walk or stand for more than 5 minutes without major pain followed by numbness and then not able to control legs. Lost a significant amount of weight two years ago (130 pounds) and was able to begin waking and jogging. Even ran a 5k but with occasional numbness.

The last two years I have gotten a major flare up in the spring that requires a few days of bed rest. Slow recovery. Saw the chiro a couple of months ago and X-ray shows I have been leaning to one side for so long that my hips are out of whack and one leg shorter than the other. Been having adjustments and am now in much better alignment. Unfortunately, now I get the numbness and pain in a different area. Feel like my hamstrings just go to sleep. Trying to stretch out. Will now add the weight lifting and walking (as much as possible) and see if this helps.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:23 am to
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This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 5:07 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33265 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:16 am to
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Great video by a renowned PT in Miami about causes and how to understand LBP and sciatica. Worth watching.
Good video. Makes perfect sense.
Posted by doublecutter
Member since Oct 2003
7078 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 6:07 pm to
I'm scheduled for a epidural steroid injection th is coming Monday.

A woman from the surgery center called me today and asked me all kinds of medical questions, explained the procedure to me, told me they will sedate me, and that I won't be able to drive for 24 hours after the procedure.

My injury is from a on the job fall that happened at the end of January. No past back pain or problems. It was diagnosed as a severe soft tissue injury on the right side of my lower back. The first week after the injury, my lower back was so swollen I couldn't cinch up a pair of pants.

I've had PT, and don't gave the excruciating pain of the first few weeks, but my back feels stiff and I experience low level pain intermittently. When I press on my back, there are still some tender spots that produce a good bit of pain.

After talking with this woman today, I now feel apprehensive about getting the procedure. Can any of you tell me about your experience with the epidural steroid injections?
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11603 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 7:27 pm to
I start PT tomorrow. Haven’t gotten the x ray results back yet, but I’m glad to start therapy. My doc said the diagnosis wouldn’t particularly change the treatment needed, so it’s fine to start.

Double: I have no experience with steroid injections, but I know a few people IRL who highly recommend it. They haven’t had negative side effects.
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
905 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 7:36 pm to
Kfizzle where do you live, I’m a McKenzie PT and think I treated you haha
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16576 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 7:38 pm to
It’s a shame doctors are so ignorant about the role of diet and nutrition relative to inflammation, disease and healing. I guess all these bandaid procedures pay way better than some simple advice, though.

I’ve been battling a badly damaged spine and all the associated fun that comes with it for 23 years. Everything was a bandaid until I figured out how to eat.
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
905 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 7:41 pm to
I would recommend anyone with spine issues try a McKenzie physical therapist. They’re better equipped to treat this stuff more than anyone but a neurosurgeon. I am obviously biased as I practice this method but I was a “traditional PT” for 7 years with very mixed results, and McKenzie changed my entire practice and the lives of many of my patients.
Posted by JBM210
Member since Dec 2010
3192 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 10:02 am to
Does anyone here know where a McKenzie physical therapist can be located in Baton Rouge or Gonzales? I was able to get a steroid injection last Thursday and it has helped some but I still have the semi numb, tingly thing going down my right leg.
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
905 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:11 pm to
If it’s only been a few days you need to be patient. These things don’t resolve overnight. You can visit the McKenzie institutes website and find a certified clinician.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Low Back Pain - Degenerative Disc Disease


I have this exact issue.

I have bad news for you. Your lower back will always hurt at some point. There will be out of the blue issues where you can’t walk and your left leg will have serious pain.

My best advice is when you feel your lower back starting to tighten, stop what your doing and sit down.

Trust me. Like me, you are fricked
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289634 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:24 pm to
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2011. I tried everything, pain shots, chiropractic care, massage therapy, dry needling, weight loss, epidural steroid injections, radio frequency ablation therapy,gravity inversion table, pain pills of all sorts, muscle relaxers, nerve blockers. Surgery was my final and last resort.


What about exercise/stretching
Posted by Saint5446
Member since Jan 2014
905 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:31 pm to
With all due respect, that is very bad advice. Some low back responds well to sitting, some to walking, some to stretching. Find someone who understands this stuff medically and ask them. The public is very poorly informed about LBP treatments.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11603 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 4:41 pm to
Agree. While sitting seems like the most intuitive thing to do when in pain, it’s the worst thing I can do for my particular pain/injury. Moving helps most.
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
4441 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 4:59 pm to
Sorry for the late response but I've been dealing with this for years. Had back pain in my late 20's. Had an MRI done and was told of my condition of DDD. He said it would give me problems later in life but prescribed PT at that time. Fast forward to 2015. I saw Dr. Jorge Isaza who didn't want to do surgery at that time and recommended that I see a pain specialist Dr. Sean Graham. Dr. Graham did a nerve ablasion (sp) and said that it would give me relief possibly for 14 months. Well it worked wonders and I was able to put off the next one until 18 months. Had another one done and it didn't help. I then had cortisone injections done at 2 different intervals with no success. I was then sent back to Dr. Isaza who did a rhysotomy where they cut the nerves instead of burning them. No success. On January 30th, I had my disc replaced between L3 and L4 and the one between L4 and L5. Had the XLIF procedure. I am still in PT and still off work. Has been a long road but getting better. Everyone does not have this condition. It is hereditary. A lot of people have it and don't know it. Dr. Isaza is a good surgeon but he's not aggressive. He has had back surgery himself and tries to find other avenues to go down before surgery. I'd highly recommend him.
Posted by jtayl71
LSU
Member since Aug 2008
282 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 8:40 pm to
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Popths


How long did you fight it conservatively?
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11603 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:10 am to
Damn. I hope the surgery is successful for you on a long term basis. That is a lot to go through.

My doctor's office called this morning with my x-ray results. The nurse said it showed disc degeneration, but she didn't say the specific location. I'm hoping it'll be more specific when they upload it to my online patient chart. She mentioned arthritis, as well, but when I google, it looks like DDD & arthritis are used interchangeably? Treatment for now is to continue PT. I'm glad to have a formal diagnosis after more than a year of feeling like I'm crazy.

I want to thank all of you for motivating me to finally go to the doctor to get checked out.
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 10:11 am
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:13 am to
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This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 5:06 pm
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:30 am to
And.... how do you eat?
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