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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:13 pm to
Posted by StinkBait72
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:13 pm to
I'm not sure of the depth, but do know the preffered solution to a catastrophic failure for regulators, would be that water in the Mississippi and not the Blind River system. The issue with the stack failing on the north side doesn't bode well for that scenario based upon the current layout and infastructure.

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Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:21 pm to
who was the rocket scientist who thought a 200 foot deep gypsum lake was a good idea? "This thing is going to collapse and contaminate most of St. James Parish, but I'll be long since retired when it does."

People who rail against extreme environmentalism sometimes have a point, but this is where lax or nonexistent regulation gets you.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:28 pm to
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Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:33 pm to
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If you live along the Blind River it will cause you some harm because when (not IF) this collapse takes place it will catastrophic. 720 million gallons of radioactive acidic water which will kill 100% of all wild and aquatic life that comes in contact with it. This is radioactive contamination that would be impossible to decontaminate.




That would be Horrible for the whole area......
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:37 pm to
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Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:45 pm to
Cool story. Those gypstacks are VERY slightly radioactive. That's why they're there. Phosphate rock is used in the production of fertilizer. Naturally occurring radioactive elements tend to be found with the other minerals in the phosphate rock. Once they process the rock, what's left over is gypsum and all of those radioactive elements and, even though it's naturally occurring, the process concentrates those elements. The stuff really isn't very dangerous at all, it's similar to the increased radiation you'd get from eating a lot of bananas or standing next to granite. The stuff is too radioactive to do anything with (according to EPA rules), including burying it in the ground they got it from, but it's not too dangerous to leave out in the open air, so they just pile it up.

Gypsum, by the way, is what sheetrock is made out of.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:48 pm to
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are VERY slightly radioactive.


That’s a strange way of putting it
Posted by lnomm34
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:49 pm to
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Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:53 pm to
We wouldn’t have to worry about this catastrophe if you snowflakes would let us real men dump our hazardous chemicals like in the good old days
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:53 pm to
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But it’s amazing how nature recovers significantly more quickly from environmental disasters than most people predict
No doubt.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 6:13 pm to
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Posted by hesterhamma
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 6:28 pm to
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If you live along the Blind River it will cause you some harm because when (not IF) this collapse takes place it will catastrophic. 720 million gallons of radioactive acidic water which will kill 100% of all wild and aquatic life that comes in contact with it. 

This is radioactive contamination that would be impossible to decontaminate


I live about 10 miles west of this, and own 60 acres that would be directly affected. All we can do is watch from the sidelines and hope for the best. Not only would it be an environmental shite show, but I would imagine that if it collapsed, that site would shut down causing layoffs.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 6:29 pm to
Mosaic better have a million pounds of caustic on hand, just in case. And the foam that would create...
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 6:35 pm to
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highly acidic water

Drop some caustic in there
ETA. Reality beat me to it
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Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 6:36 pm to
Little late bruh
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:04 pm to
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trucks a day will be traveling this week through a mushy cane field north of Mosaic Fertilizer's huge phosphogypsum waste pile in St. James


Seems healthy. Where do I sign up to work at this plant?
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 7:05 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:08 pm to
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Gypsum, by the way, is what sheetrock is made out of.


Dumb question: obviously the stuff can’t be used to make sheetrock or else they would have done it by now, but can someone tell me very basically why it can’t be used for that purpose?
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:13 pm to
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This is radioactive contamination that would be impossible to decontaminate.

Easy there chief. It’s probably tritium. It takes a hell of a lot more than “trace” to make a difference.

The highly acidic water is what’s gonna cause damage.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:15 pm to
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Mosaic officials said the mounds of dirt to shore up a failing retaining wall of the gypsum waste pile are one half of a two-part strategy to halt the incremental creep of a portion of the towering outer wall surrounding the waste and to prevent a potentially catastrophic failure of a giant lake of highly acidic water contained at the top of the pile nearly 200 feet in the air and visible from miles around.



Was this directly from the link, because it sure as frick was hard to read.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:18 pm to
nevermind
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