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Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19094 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:37 pm to
Lease one first. Will likely cost more than buying but you aren’t tied to it.
I think EV might be useful for the daily commuter but nothing else really yet.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16298 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:38 pm to
The battery will diminish its ability to hold a charge within 15 and they’re very expensive to replace

They don’t really like to talk about that
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17506 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:41 pm to
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The battery will diminish its ability to hold a charge within 15 and they’re very expensive to replace

in 15 what?
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They don’t really like to talk about that

they talk about it all the time, it just doesn't hit your twitter algorithm and you aren't looking for it.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38449 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:51 pm to
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How was a long road trip easy to do? Your driving habits must be different from mine.


On the screen we had the locations of restaurants and tourist attractions with chargers. When we needed hotels we booked places with charging included (side note: my friend's Y had free lifetime charging at super chargers). So when we stopped to eat, check something out, or use the bathroom we charged. We only charged a little above what we needed as it estimated what we needed to get to our destination. If we had free charging at the hotel why would I pay to top off? For instance, if I needed 13% battery to get to the hotel I might charge to 20% and finish up where it was already paid for.


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The battery will diminish its ability to hold a charge within 15 and they’re very expensive to replace


The car tracks the life of your batter. So every single Tesla is talking about it. Something never posted on this board is how over the air updates have improved range and battery life
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
8909 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:55 pm to
My wife had a Kia Optima hybrid, it got 45 mpg and never an issue. Got rid of it honestly because I didn't want to worry about having to replace the batteries in the next 2 or 3 years.

Overall it was a great car, Kia has done well with there brand over the last 15 years.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10917 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:57 pm to
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Couple of main reasons why I would never go back to gas for my work car:

My company pays me $275 tax free more on my monthly car package for having electric vs gas.

My company has my car on their insurance


Those are hardly reasons to own an EV. Most people would drive a car that burned toxic waste if they had such incentives.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
5021 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:58 pm to
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Negatives of owning a Tesla?



Spending $27K on batteries
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17506 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:02 pm to
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My wife had a Kia Optima hybrid, it got 45 mpg and never an issue. Got rid of it honestly because I didn't want to worry about having to replace the batteries in the next 2 or 3 years.

Overall it was a great car, Kia has done well with there brand over the last 15 years.

The hybrids do a pretty poor job of battery health management. But it still should have been pretty easy to see where it was at for current max state of charge vs original MSOC. Then you can pretty much predict from where it stands and how old it is where it's going. They degrade in a pretty consistent manner unless something crazy changes in how they're used.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:20 pm to
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Negatives of owning a Tesla?


Some 40killionaire from Houma will call you a pussy. And the low IQ/low incomes will make comments about generators and being stranded on the side of the road.

That's about it.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37925 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Some 40killionaire from Houma will call you a pussy. That's about it


yeah, but he'll be doing it while the Tesla owner sits stranded on the side of the road cause the car doesn't run or needs a charge.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7169 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:23 pm to
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My old boss had Tesla SUV. That thing was in the shop every other week for some reason or another


No it was not
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:25 pm to
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This is not a fair price comparison. A new battery costs almost as much as a new ICE vehicle.


How many cars do you know of that cost $13-14,000? Because that's the going average for most Tesla batteries right now.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:26 pm to
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yeah, but he'll be doing it while the Tesla owner sits stranded on the side of the road cause the car doesn't run or needs a charge.


Great point. I edited.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30072 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:35 pm to
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I'm sorry I scare people with facts and don't regurgitate shite I read on Twitter.


I think people would give your POV more weight if they grasp the fact you are really a petrol head at heart.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38449 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:44 pm to
It's just looking at things objectively. Just as many people cannot turn off Fox News as people who cannot do the same for CNN. Notice how many people without any experience with EV other than Twitter and mainstream news had to come make their presence known. They aren't asking questions like the OP.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 2:48 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17506 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:45 pm to
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I think people would give your POV more weight if they grasp the fact you are really a petrol head at heart.

I try to bring it up every now and then. I figured my avi would give that away.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:48 pm to
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How many cars do you know of that cost $13-14,000? Because that's the going average for most Tesla batteries right now.




The current Tesla battery warranty is around 8 years and 150,000 miles, how long are you planning to keep your Tesla?

I imagine most people that can afford a Tesla's price range are not planning to keep it for over 8 years or drive 150 thousand miles in it?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112702 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:20 pm to
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If you don't care about your road trips taking hours longer due to having to go out of the way to find a charger and waiting 30min+ to charge, go ahead
3 points you made in this statement or incorrect or exaggerated.

Unless you're traveling across country 25 hours or some shite, it does not take "hours longer." I take an annual 10 hour road trip, and it adds roughly 1 hour to my trip, maybe a tad more. That's in gross hours, but once you factor in family stops for food and bathroom, it adds maybe 30 minutes to the trip in total. But main point, it certainly does not add "hours"

30 m;inutes plus to charge is a legit rarity, unless you have a Tesla on the low limit of range. I have a long range Model 3, I'm not saying I never would, but I never have had to charge 30 minutes. Almost every stop is 15 minutes at the most.

And on the vast majority of your trips, you'll never have to "go out of your way" to find a charger, unless you have a normal road trip off the beaten path. But again, while that may happen for some, it won't for both. For all 3 points, you made it the norm, when it's the extreme outlier in every instance.






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eta: and make sure you can afford to buy the $50k+ Tesla outright and be able to take the hit on depreciation

Tesla resale values are on the very, very shortlist of best in the business. Teslas have been depreciating more than normal recently, but so has every other car brand.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:20 pm to
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The current Tesla battery warranty is around 8 years and 150,000 miles, how long are you planning to keep your Tesla?


And the average life of a Tesla battery is 300-500k miles. Information that is readily available. Me? I'd keep it for quite some time provided I wasn't having issues with it.

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I imagine most people that can afford a Tesla's price range are not planning to keep it for over 8 years or drive 150 thousand miles in it?


I imagine you're correct, so I think we're on the same page here. I don't know many people who keep new cars past 4-5 years. But talking about price range, they aren't that much more expensive than many other comparable ICE cars out there unless you're going to some of the S and X models.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112702 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:23 pm to
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So basically you have to charge these things at public charging stations? This seems stupid as frick.

What are you talking about?

Your car charges at night for you, and you wake up to a fully charged car, why do you think that is some kind of issue?

That 8-12 number is if you have zero charge. How often do you plan to drive hundreds of miles, get home, then turn around in 1 or 2 hours and go another road trip for hundreds of miles?
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