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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Posted on 3/9/14 at 7:35 pm to Da Sheik
Posted on 3/9/14 at 7:35 pm to Da Sheik
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Early on I was thinking pilot suicide, like that Egyptian airways flight several years back. Both pilots on this plane have Hadji names.
Well Malaysia is a Muslim country.
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 7:47 pm to Da Sheik
Yep. Didn't like reading the pilot's names. But, I read one pilot has been flying since 1981.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 8:10 pm to East Coast Band
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if it broke apart midair, it would leave a large debris field of a lot of buoyant objects
I don't get this thought process. They were supposedly cruising at 38,000 feet. Do you know how high up this is?
If a bomb blew this puppy up or something like that, you are going to have lots of smaller pieces flying all over the place. With the weight of different pieces and this high level winds, this shite is going every where. Then think about what has happened with the ocean currents spread what didn't sink all over the place. Big freaking area.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 8:14 pm to notiger1997
Yep. It took 2 years to find the black boxes and main wreckage of the Air France crash and authorities seemed to have much more upfront info, e.g., transponders, etc.
This post was edited on 3/9/14 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 3/9/14 at 8:28 pm to Da Sheik
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Both pilots on this plane have Hadji names.
a lot of ignorance here ... Malaysia is a Muslim country, so of course they have "Hadji" names. I've been to Malaysia many times on business. Never once did I feel threatened and I thoroughly enjoyed my visits there, so much so that I've considered doing consulting there.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 8:32 pm to 1984Tiger
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I've been to Malaysia many times on business. Never once did I feel threatened and I thoroughly enjoyed my visits there, so much so that I've considered doing consulting there.
Is English prevalent there or is it just in business?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 8:35 pm to RunningBlake
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Yep. It took 2 years to find the black boxes and main wreckage of the Air France crash and authorities seemed to have much more upfront info, e.g., transponders, etc.
That was because of deep waters and strong currents, was it not?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 8:37 pm to Jefferson Davis
I admit waters will be deeper with the air France crash. But, as of now, authorities can't even figure out which sea the plane crashed in.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:09 pm to notiger1997
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if it broke apart midair, it would leave a large debris field of a lot of buoyant objects
I don't get this thought process. They were supposedly cruising at 38,000 feet. Do you know how high up this is?
If a bomb blew this puppy up or something like that, you are going to have lots of smaller pieces flying all over the place. With the weight of different pieces and this high level winds, this shite is going every where. Then think about what has happened with the ocean currents spread what didn't sink all over the place. Big freaking area.
Aren't we on the same page here?
I'm suggesting that if the plane did break up somehow in the air, it should leave parts floating all over the sea, somewhat easier to see than if the plane went into the water intact.
The Air France flight in the Atlantic took a long time to find all of the plane, but initial pieces were discovered by day 2.
The Air France Flight 447 did hit the water intact, but hit almost level with slightly nose up.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:40 pm to East Coast Band
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Aren't we on the same page here?
I guess. I just get the impression that some people posting in this thread just think that a shrimp boat is going to putt putt out to a fixed area and stumble on floating parts of a missing jet.
It's a big arse area and things have already gone in many different directions I'm sure.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:42 pm to East Coast Band
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I'm suggesting that if the plane did break up somehow in the air, it should leave parts floating all over the sea, somewhat easier to see than if the plane went into the water intact.
Hitting the water, a plane would leave a more visible debris field than breaking up at high altitude and speed. The debris field would be more localized if the plane hit the water intact.
It's going to break up either way, but one will be more scattered than the other.
This post was edited on 3/9/14 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:48 pm to East Coast Band
It's going to be hard to find small pieces. Almost impossible to find it visually unless you're flying low. The best bet is to pick it up on radar, and contacts that small are usually visible at about 12-30nm, depending on the weather.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:20 am to JAXTiger16
The Air France flight had debris scattered all over the place. They were picking up pieces for weeks before they finally found the main wreckage two years later.
And, at least according to the Vietnamese, as of 33 minutes ago, no wreckage from the plane has been found yet. If this thing disintegrated at 35,000 feet, they would have found more than just one suspected piece of the plane by now.
This whole thing is very strange.
And, at least according to the Vietnamese, as of 33 minutes ago, no wreckage from the plane has been found yet. If this thing disintegrated at 35,000 feet, they would have found more than just one suspected piece of the plane by now.
This whole thing is very strange.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 12:21 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:33 am to RollTide1987
The plane is sitting in a hanger in Cleveland right next to UA Airlines Flight 93.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:42 am to Choupique19
What are the chances the plane could have been hijacked and landed in some remote airfield on an island? Is this scenario even possible? If there was a willing ATC on this rogue island, can such a landing be kept quiet?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:48 am to hikingfan
I don't think it's very possible for that to be the case. They did find those massive oil slicks the morning after it happened and plus you do have that suspected piece of debris that they are looking for but still haven't found.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:49 am to hikingfan
The issue is they aren't even sure they are in the right body of water because the plane may have turned around after contact was lost. If that's the case, it's going to take awhile to find it.
They are going to check the Strait of Malacca it sounds like.
ETA: the idea the plane landed somewhere else without anyone noticing is slim. They'd have to fly a 777 low enough to avoid radar and no one noticing a big arse plane landing on a runway long enough to land it. Not happening.
They are going to check the Strait of Malacca it sounds like.
ETA: the idea the plane landed somewhere else without anyone noticing is slim. They'd have to fly a 777 low enough to avoid radar and no one noticing a big arse plane landing on a runway long enough to land it. Not happening.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 1:00 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:09 am to Teddy Ruxpin
Yeah, I was just hoping that the passengers are somehow still alive in some bizarre scenario, however slim the chances might be. I can't imagine what the families might be going though. I mean they've got to cling on to hope until they know for sure.
In the case of the Air France 447 they were in such a remote part of the Atlantic that once it went missing it was just a matter of trying to figure out where they crashed. But this part of SE Asia has so many land masses that maybe you can entertain the thought of possibly of landing somewhere, even if it is just for a fleeting second.
In the case of the Air France 447 they were in such a remote part of the Atlantic that once it went missing it was just a matter of trying to figure out where they crashed. But this part of SE Asia has so many land masses that maybe you can entertain the thought of possibly of landing somewhere, even if it is just for a fleeting second.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:14 am to hikingfan
Would be great if they somehow lived a water landing or something. Just sucks that it is unlikely. Just terrible
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 1:15 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:39 am to hikingfan
Is there a scattering of islands between Malaysia and Vietnam?
At this point the whole story is a little wacky. Unlike Air France, there was no signal to follow to the general area of the crash. Unlike Air France, no debris has been found. If it pencil-dove, the wings would have sheared off, leaving tons of debris. If it broke up or blew up in midair, it would have rained debris all around al la TWA 800. Either way, you'd've been able to spot a debris field by now with all the aircraft they're using, but so far only 1 suspected door? Doesn't add up.
At this point the whole story is a little wacky. Unlike Air France, there was no signal to follow to the general area of the crash. Unlike Air France, no debris has been found. If it pencil-dove, the wings would have sheared off, leaving tons of debris. If it broke up or blew up in midair, it would have rained debris all around al la TWA 800. Either way, you'd've been able to spot a debris field by now with all the aircraft they're using, but so far only 1 suspected door? Doesn't add up.
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