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re: People speaking out about Kratom energy drinks
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:37 am to Burt Reynolds
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:37 am to Burt Reynolds
Or put some dirt on it
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:39 am to saint tiger225
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We'll see more of this in the coming weeks and months as the government continues their war on safe alternatives to the big pharma options.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:41 am to Eurocat
Didn't realize so many people drank that nasty shite.
Gross
Gross
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:45 am to Eurocat
What a dumb article. All that withdrawals crap is bullshite. I take kratom daily and whenever I go on vacations I don’t bring any kratom with me at all and outside of maybe possible insomnia I’ve noticed, I don’t experience any withdrawals 
And how do they go into crippling debt over it? I’ll buy a package of kratom powder from the smoke shop and that literally lasts me the entire month. My statements show 1 purchase a month and it’s $40… another BS statement. Eyes rolling into the back of her head and weight loss? I don’t have a loss of appetite when I take it, whole article is hilariously retarded
And how do they go into crippling debt over it? I’ll buy a package of kratom powder from the smoke shop and that literally lasts me the entire month. My statements show 1 purchase a month and it’s $40… another BS statement. Eyes rolling into the back of her head and weight loss? I don’t have a loss of appetite when I take it, whole article is hilariously retarded
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 7:46 am
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:46 am to rintintin
34 people on average die every 24 hours from alcohol related vehicle crashes alone.
Where is the outrage?
Where is the outrage?
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:51 am to geauxtigahhhs
quote:exactly what’s going on. It was just banned in our city limits and now have to drive 10 minutes to the smoke shop the next town over. It’s relaxing for me and has never given me any issues taking it for close to a decade now. Knew it’d eventually get targeted by big pharma and sure enough now we see articles like this stupid made up shite out of USA Today
Big pharma running an all out campaign. They want everyone hooked on their pain meds. Can’t have anyone self regulating. I’ve taken kratom on and off for years to handle my back pain and never had an issue. Dumbass Louisiana politicians allowed these lies and misinformation to convince them to ban it completely recently.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:04 am to Eurocat
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she says, took nearly everything from her: Her car. Her house. Her 27-year marriage. Nearly half her bodyweight. At one point, she says, she weighed 70 pounds.
"My eyes were rolling in the back of my head. I couldn't walk straight. I didn't leave my couch for months. I had pancreatitis. I had shingles. I was sick. I mean, I was really sick. So my daughter, who lives in LA, said, 'You know what, mom? I'm done. If you can't get off this stuff, I'm done,' " Maloney says. "My blood pressure was like 58 over 49. I was dying."
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:06 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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whenever I go on vacations I don’t bring any kratom with me at all and outside of maybe possible insomnia I’ve noticed, I don’t experience any withdrawals
I get what you are saying but insomnia is one of the first withdrawal symptoms you will get with stuff like this. These things don’t happen overnight, getting your body to the point of full blown withdrawal symptoms is a drawn out process. Just be careful with that shite
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:16 am to Ed Osteen
quote:I wonder if there is anything different about the shots I see in the gas stations they say they became addicted to. Been taking the powder for many years but never once tried those shots.
I get what you are saying but insomnia is one of the first withdrawal symptoms you will get with stuff like this. These things don’t happen overnight, getting your body to the point of full blown withdrawal symptoms is a drawn out process. Just be careful with that shite
I’ve experienced none of the things they put out in that article: low blood pressure, weight loss, eyes rolling in the back of my head (
), crippling debt (wtf?), pancreatitis, shingles…. Sounds like a fear mongering campaign but I’ll probably take some extra time off it after Labor Day vacation where I won’t bring it and see if there’s anything more to the withdrawal symptoms. when I go a week plus without taking it insomnia has been the only thing Ive ever noticed Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:29 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
I have no clue, I don’t really know much about kratom other than hearing some horror stories involving withdrawal in the recovery community.
These people were definitely taking way more than a casual user though so it doesn’t seem like a good comparison to gas station shots
These people were definitely taking way more than a casual user though so it doesn’t seem like a good comparison to gas station shots
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:34 am to Eurocat
I worked with a girl in the office a few years ago and she was a rock star whenever she was on that Kratom shite. Just a pleasant person to work around and she was very good at her job.
When she was not on that Kratom shite, she was the devil to work with. It was almost impossible to be around her and she was horrible at her job.
It was like night and day when she was on or off that shite
When she was not on that Kratom shite, she was the devil to work with. It was almost impossible to be around her and she was horrible at her job.
It was like night and day when she was on or off that shite
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:35 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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wonder if there is anything different about the shots I see in the gas stations they say they became addicted to. Been taking the powder for many years but never once tried those shots.
I haven't tried the shots or powder, I've only ever done the pills. And honestly I take a frick ton of them at once, yet still no eye rolling or shingles.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:37 am to speedybaw
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:55 am to Beessnax
It’s now illegal in the state, and I feel pretty defeated arguing for it.
Most of the legislative pushback came down to Puritanical moralizing and government overreach, telling people what they should be doing with their own bodies.
In the middle of an opioid epidemic, we have a safe product that many prefer over full-agonist opiates, and people use to avoid other dangerous substances, one that, for most users, increases productivity, and we’re going to criminalize it? Really?
Yes, some people will abuse anything. If it’s not this, it’ll be glue. But kratom is a partial agonist, meaning it has a ceiling effect, taking more doesn’t amplify the high. In fact, if someone used kratom and then heroin, the kratom would actually reduce the effects of the heroin.
The only reason 7-OH is even on the market is because it slipped through specific bans. And just like with synthetic cannabinoids (“spice”), we’ll see fully synthetic kratom derivatives hit shelves within a year. Lawmakers will pass laws, and with each new round, we’ll drift further and further from the plant’s original, natural form.
Most of the legislative pushback came down to Puritanical moralizing and government overreach, telling people what they should be doing with their own bodies.
In the middle of an opioid epidemic, we have a safe product that many prefer over full-agonist opiates, and people use to avoid other dangerous substances, one that, for most users, increases productivity, and we’re going to criminalize it? Really?
Yes, some people will abuse anything. If it’s not this, it’ll be glue. But kratom is a partial agonist, meaning it has a ceiling effect, taking more doesn’t amplify the high. In fact, if someone used kratom and then heroin, the kratom would actually reduce the effects of the heroin.
The only reason 7-OH is even on the market is because it slipped through specific bans. And just like with synthetic cannabinoids (“spice”), we’ll see fully synthetic kratom derivatives hit shelves within a year. Lawmakers will pass laws, and with each new round, we’ll drift further and further from the plant’s original, natural form.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:56 am to Eurocat
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It took half her bodyweight and sent her to rehab.
Cheaper than ozempic. Shorter rehab than heroin. Not seeing the issue here.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:07 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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withdrawal symptoms.
Kratom it’s probably the most effective antihistamine I’ve ever taken. I hardly ever get a cold, and when I do, taking a dose feels like taking a steroid shot.
Most of the withdrawal symptoms, people experience from plain leaf Kratom is histamine rebound, just like when people discontinue Claritin.
Histamine is the brain’s primary wakefulness-promoting neurotransmitters. Kratom dampens this signal. When histamine surges after quitting, you can have cold symptoms, insomnia, and restless legs. But there are certainly supplements she can take to minimize these effects. Just have to follow a regiment similar to people discontinuing other antihistamines.
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 9:09 am
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:53 am to Eurocat
Is this the kratom detox thread?!?!
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:53 am to Eurocat
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It took half her bodyweight and sent her to rehab.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:01 am to Eurocat
Oh jfc. Lady in this article has never experienced some real withdrawals. I can’t imagine showing up at treatment and letting anyone know your doc is frickin kratom
Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:19 am to Eurocat
I’m for everything being legal. I’m OK with heroin being available at Circle K.
But I’m also for accurate and honest labeling and descriptions of products.
Selling this stuff as “energy drinks” (if that is true) isn’t cool.
I’m for complete personal responsibility - for manufacturer, retailer and consumer.
But I’m also for accurate and honest labeling and descriptions of products.
Selling this stuff as “energy drinks” (if that is true) isn’t cool.
I’m for complete personal responsibility - for manufacturer, retailer and consumer.
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 10:29 am
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