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re: Plant baws knowledge of permits
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:55 pm to pdubya76
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:55 pm to pdubya76
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In my experience, the company doing the hot work provides the fire watch.
Not true. There are companies that all they do is provide holewatch/firewatch like Total Safety and OnPoint.
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:09 pm to dukeg7213
quote:why are you just making shite up
The fire watch people were always ghetto middle aged black women.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:18 pm to ChestRockwell
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i called them out in a corporate safety meeting earlier today
Hope you got your resume handy! Lol
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:27 pm to ChestRockwell
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does a hot work permit need to have fire watch baws trained on actual fire watch?
Yea, supposed to be. Are they full trained? We dont check and just take their word for it
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who are doing the hot work, bring in thier own to do fire watch.
Contractor doing the work provides the fire watch. We sure ain't sticking a company man out there to watch them
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:47 pm to ChestRockwell
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i called them out in a corporate safety meeting earlier today
Posted on 8/21/25 at 5:48 am to HeadCall
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Is there special training need to watch for a fire?
Yes, it can be pretty extensive. You have to know how to hook up hoses, put welding blankets over drains, stand next to a fire extinguisher, and know what smoke/fire looks like. Sometimes you might be asked to stand by the porta cans and try and figure out who keeps writing bomb threats in them on payday so everybody gets to go home early.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 5:58 am to ChestRockwell
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"we have done it always like that
One of my favorites, there is no more ignorant group of people than the 50-60 year old operator group now training the groups under them that are even dumber with a worse work ethic.
I often reply yes you have always done it like that which is why your company has seen fit to hire me to train your dumb arse because you are costing them hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars ny destroying equipment through sheer ignorance and stupidity yet wear it as a badge of honor "my daddy done it this way after WW2" and Billy Bob showed me how to do it this way back in 1989.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 6:00 am to ChestRockwell
Yes a fire watch is needed and must be trained on what to watch for, what to do in an emergency, and how to use a fire extinguisher......real rocket science. We require the contractor doing the work to supply trained fire watches and they should have a card showing they were trained. Most Safety Councils actually have short classes for fire watch and confined space attendants.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 6:05 am to tigersownall
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I worked at a place on the river. Wrote plenty permits for hot work. I don’t think any of them had a fire watch.
That's hard to believe, straight out OSHA violation. What place was this?
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:13 am to ChestRockwell
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Baws, does a hot work permit need to have fire watch baws trained on actual fire watch?
Come back later, we’re in a meeting
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:19 am to ChestRockwell
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The company i am with portrays me as an outsider, which the mentality is "we have done it always like that" i called them out in a corporate safety meeting earlier today
You should start updating that resume
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:44 am to ChestRockwell
At the plant where I work a fire watch is only required for a heavy hot work (one where sparks or another ignition source is produced). A light hot, like using a drill or camera, doesn’t require one. The contractors provide one, or if our maintenance hands are doing the job they’ll do it.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:48 am to jaytothen
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Smoke is the absence of fire.
Call me crazy,but I'm pretty sure I've seen fires with smoke coming from it.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:53 am to deltaland
I'm getting laid off anyway. Cant fire me for that and they know it. Already have something lined up after.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:54 am to ChestRockwell
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Site specific training, right?
No, each site has different rules hence the requirement is specific to each site.
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