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re: Reveille Opinion Article: Tigerland dress code discriminates against blacks
Posted on 9/30/15 at 1:57 pm to shel311
Posted on 9/30/15 at 1:57 pm to shel311
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his post is basically saying, yes I acknowledge the discrimination, it's always been that way, and if you don't like it, you can leave
Thats basically what they are saying -- we're not changing whether you like it or not.
They'd change the minute black student athletes went back to the MEAC/SWAC.
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 1:58 pm to CoopsjwReed
quote:As a member of this group, we really don't care.
I dont like the message it sends to the other students that arent apart of this upper middle class white college culture.
We're not going to change our ways so others can feel "included." Why do we have to change but they don't?
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:00 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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As a member of this group, we really don't care.
Don't care and keep living in the past, the world is moving past this type of segregation and exclusiveness.
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We're not going to change our ways so others can feel "included." Why do we have to change but they don't?
Not gonna change your hateful ways? Keep clinging to the past and see how far that advances the group.
You sound like strom thrumond.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:01 pm to CoopsjwReed
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dont like the message it sends to the other students that arent apart of this upper middle class white college culture
And this is the meat of the argument. We want the majority to change to fit the minority (and again not in the sense of race, but the minority in the sense of percentage).
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Its about time, in 2015, to expect more from our kids. This country is getting browner by the minute and learning how to navigate other spheres will be skill necessary to functional in the world.
You are trying to force others to accept a style. That's F**CKING RIDICULOUS. It is ignorant and lazy if a kid can't be open-minded enough to realize that all black people are not going to be terrible to hang around with. That's a racist attitude. But if that black person has nothing in common with that person, I don't think there should be any expectation for them to accept them as one of their group. The decision to not accept shouldn't be made on race, but it can still be made. I would never not hang out in a bar if gay guys were in there, but if a guy wearing a boa and hot pants was there, I might feel like I don't want to be a part of that scene. So if I put a sign that said no flamboyant attire, it doesn't mean I'm a close minded homophobe.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:04 pm to CoopsjwReed
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world is moving past this type of segregation and exclusiveness.
bullshite. Race may not be a factor in the segregation and exclusiveness as it was in the past, but boy do we love us some exclusiveness. I can think of a million reasons why I think I'm better than everyone everywhere
. I don't need people to keep crying racism as the segregator. Let's move on to the next box on the checklist 
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:06 pm to KG6
quote:Again, i'll preface it by saying i don't know if the OP stuff is true or not, just playing the hypothetical. But if black kids are told they can't get into a bar because of their all white shoes, then white kids are allowed in with their all white shoes, then YES, why wouldn't you want the majority to change to accept the minority?
And this is the meat of the argument. We want the majority to change to fit the minority (and again not in the sense of race, but the minority in the sense of percentage).
quote:Or, trying to tell people to not discriminate based on race, what's so wrong with that?
You are trying to force others to accept a style
quote:But the correct comparison is putting out that sign, then allowing 1 group in with the flamboyant attire and not allowing another group in, that's the issue.
So if I put a sign that said no flamboyant attire, it doesn't mean I'm a close minded homophobe.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:06 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Why anyone would want to go places they aren't wanted is beyond me
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:08 pm to yellowfin
quote:I agree with this general sentiment, but in this case, it could be 1 or 1 group of bouncers causing the issue. All of your friends may be in there, you may love the place. I'm not sure it would really be a place you're not wanted, per se.
Why anyone would want to go places they aren't wanted is beyond me
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:08 pm to CoopsjwReed
quote:like Kendrick Lamar says " we gone be alright "
Not gonna change your hateful ways? Keep clinging to the past and see how far that advances the group.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:08 pm to yellowfin
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Why anyone would want to go places they aren't wanted is beyond me
Because Chicken Shack is delicious. Don't care what sort of looks I get.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:09 pm to TheAlmightySmash
quote:Well, damn. When I worked at Murphy's and Fred's, chances are I was walking in there with these on
All white shoes are typically worn by young black men and more "hood" white men. They have since the early 90's probably. It's a way to keep them out of the bars.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:10 pm to AlxTgr
quote:The all white K Swiss look was money back in my day...I'm so old!!!
Well, damn. When I worked at Murphy's and Fred's, chances are I was walking in there with these on
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:11 pm to KG6
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And this is the meat of the argument. We want the majority to change to fit the minority (and again not in the sense of race, but the minority in the sense of percentage).
I disagree, its not necessarily about changing, but accepting others despite their differences. There really isnt this large large cultural gap, especially when we are considering americanized ethnic cultures. The perception of this large gap is largely due to the ignorance. No one says change who you are, but learning about and accepting others, despite the few differences they may be, goes a long way and ultimately makes us better. If not, we are nothing more than a glorified Europe.
quote:Not a style, but accepting the person, and actually use the one skill that discerns us from other Apes and our ability to think past the surface of things.
You are trying to force others to accept a style. That's F**CKING RIDICULOUS.
quote:No shite, that goes for anyone. What I'm saying, is more people have things in common then they think, and that its better to breed a culture of cooperativity than a culture of contempt and angst.
But if that black person has nothing in common with that person, I don't think there should be any expectation for them to accept them as one of their group.
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I would never not hang out in a bar if gay guys were in there, but if a guy wearing a boa and hot pants was there, I might feel like I don't want to be a part of that scene. So if I put a sign that said no flamboyant attire, it doesn't mean I'm a close minded homophobe.
Well that says more about you that you cant or wont even attempt to look past superficial things like dress.
For our society, I dont think we should entitle the intellectually ignorance and lazy folks.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:13 pm to CoopsjwReed
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and actually use the one skill that discerns us from other Apes and our ability to think past the surface of things.
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What I'm saying, is more people have things in common then they think, and that its better to breed a culture of cooperativity than a culture of contempt and angst.
This is great stuff.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:14 pm to CoopsjwReed
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"Its a class issue not a race issue" is the favorite go to deflector for post civil rights social liberals.
I think you're confused here. Social liberals are like you trying to find racism and point it out and make a big show of what you think is racism. Calling something racist is the easiest way for people like you to get what you want
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:14 pm to CoopsjwReed
You realize the a good bit of blacks at tiger land bars aren't students right? There is a lot of ghetto trash that doesn't belong there.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:16 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:And all the whites are upstanding gentlemen?
You realize the a good bit of blacks at tiger land bars aren't students right? There is a lot of ghetto trash that doesn't belong there.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:16 pm to Upperdecker
quote:If you were to assume the OP is correct, what else would you call it?
think you're confused here. Social liberals are like you trying to find racism and point it out and make a big show of what you think is racism. Calling something racist is the easiest way for people like you to get what you want
Again, if it's not correct, then I get it.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:16 pm to shel311
It's purely a business decision if the baggy clothes, Tapout, white sneaker, chain wearing, flat bill, and tatted up people would tip more and spend more money it would be changed. Why do you think these bars cater to the "fraternities and sororities"? Because they tip well and spend tons of money.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:17 pm to shel311
No, but that's not what this thread is about.
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