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re: Roe v Wade officially overturned
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:17 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:17 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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For 50 years the religious right's MAIN rallying call has been to overturn RvW. So, I kinda think that was the goal. We have how many Catholics on the court right now?
Ah, attacking Catholics
You know who else did that? The KKK and Hitler
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:18 pm to Antonio Moss
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Today’s decision does not make abortion illegal.
Correct. It leaves it up to 100 politicians. Many of which we know their leanings and some of which we have no idea.
I don’t care either way, I don’t shite out a baby. But I can agree with a woman saying she doesn’t want a decision made for her by some weirdo religious zealot.
Also, I don’t need to be tried for murder because I live in a state with said lawmakers and can’t blow some guts and then feed her Plan B.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:19 pm to mmmmmbeeer
For the pro choice people in this thread, how would you feel if the way every abortion was performed was to extract the fetus from the womb, set him or her on a table, and then shoot them with an AR-15?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:19 pm to Antonio Moss
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It’s the only correct way to endow the Federal government with a power it does not currently have.
The powers of Congress are specifically outlined in Article I, Section 8.
Do you think Griswold, Lawrence and Obergefell should be overturned then?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:20 pm to ThatMakesSense
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I don’t care either way, I don’t shite out a baby. But I can agree with a woman saying she doesn’t want a decision made for her by some weirdo religious zealot. Also, I don’t need to be tried for murder because I live in a state with said lawmakers and can’t blow some guts and then feed her Plan B.
Choices have consequences
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:20 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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You and I both know this had dick-all to do with federalism and everything to do with coming through with an ENORMOUS victory for the religious right.
You have been consistently wrong in this thread so “we” don’t see eye-to-eye on this statement.
If the Court wanted to really go all in the religious elements of this issue they would have held that government sanctioning of abortion at the state level violates the 5th Amendment due process clause (via 14)
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:21 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Bet most of the people ITT hate Miranda and Terry.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:23 pm to Cosmo
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But I can agree with a woman saying she doesn’t want a decision made for her
But if the fetus is female, isn’t abortion someone making a choice for them, to much greater consequence?
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:24 pm to Cosmo
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Choices have consequences
I agree. Where does it end? If I go vacation and knock a slut up in an anti abortion state, what then? If she’s not from there? What about IUD and birth control? Is that faux pas?
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:24 pm to Cosmo
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Choices have consequences
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:26 pm to SoonerK
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Do you think Griswold, Lawrence and Obergefell should be overturned then?
Not necessarily.
These are all way less controversial than Roe because the substantive issue in each of these three does not serve any legitimate government purpose.
Personally, I am pro-gay marriage and obviously pro-contraception. The prohibition of which serves no legitimate government means.
I would also support an actual right to family/ sexual privacy codified in the Constitution. But that is a wholly separate issue than abortion.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:27 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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But if the fetus is female, isn’t abortion someone making a choice for them, to much greater consequence?
What?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:27 pm to ThatMakesSense
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If I go vacation and knock a slut up in an anti abortion state, what then?
She can travel to a different state, or choose to have the baby. …in which case you’re now the one who’s fricked
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What about IUD and birth control
What about it? Preventing a pregnancy from ever happening does not equal ending a pregnancy
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:29 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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For 50 years the religious right's MAIN rallying call has been to overturn RvW. So, I kinda think that was the goal. We have how many Catholics on the court right now?
Yes because abortion is wrong. I get that progressive/liberals or whatever they are this week do not believe in absolutes and revel in relativism but killing a human being (or whatever you want to call it at it’s early state) is WRONG.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:29 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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The game has changed and you can’t stand it. Gone are the days of the American right turning the other cheek. Finally, they understand we are at war for the fundamental liberty of this nation.
Since when has the "American right" turned the other cheek?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:29 pm to ThatMakesSense
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What?
Pro choice women talk about their rights. What about the rights of the babies, 50% of whom are female?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:29 pm to Antonio Moss
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Personally, I am pro-gay marriage and obviously pro-contraception. The prohibition of which serves no legitimate government means.
I cant imagine any state making contraception illegal
I dont think the government should be in the marriage business at all, gay or straight
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:29 pm to ThatMakesSense
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I agree. Where does it end? If I go vacation and knock a slut up in an anti abortion state, what then? If she’s not from there? What about IUD and birth control? Is that faux pas?
it’s up to the States, as intended.
the written decision said the SC had no intention or need to rule on anything else related to abortion.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:30 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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What about it? Preventing a pregnancy from ever happening does not equal ending a pregnancy
Sure. Tell that to the ones making the laws. Me thinks you underestimate the overzealous nature of those making laws.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:30 pm to ThatMakesSense
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Sure. Tell that to the ones making the laws. Me thinks you underestimate the overzealous nature of those making laws.
Get back to me when Alabama makes contraception illegal
Because they wont
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