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re: Shingle or metal roof?
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:42 pm to shiftworker
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:42 pm to shiftworker
Everyone wants metal until they are told its ~4x the cost. I personally love them but not enough to drop $50K on one, especially with the advancement in composite materials and the use of ice and water shield underlayment.
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:58 pm to Basura Blanco
Where are you getting a new shingle roof for $12.5K?
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:52 am to Kjnstkmn
Probably a 3 tab shingle, smaller house, simple roofline.
26 Gauge metal roof can easily last 40 years, if the roofers don’t know what they’re doing though they can over compress the screws which will cause seal failure and leaks. I’ve never had one on any of my residential homes, but have built hundreds of buildings in multiple countries and they’re still there going back almost 40 years.
I wasn’t aware insurance companies were having problems with them if they’re over 25, that being the case there’s no reason to go with anything but an architectural shingle for cost versus replacement value.
26 Gauge metal roof can easily last 40 years, if the roofers don’t know what they’re doing though they can over compress the screws which will cause seal failure and leaks. I’ve never had one on any of my residential homes, but have built hundreds of buildings in multiple countries and they’re still there going back almost 40 years.
I wasn’t aware insurance companies were having problems with them if they’re over 25, that being the case there’s no reason to go with anything but an architectural shingle for cost versus replacement value.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:52 am to Kjnstkmn
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Where are you getting a new shingle roof for $12.5K?
I build new construction. 1500 ft beach home cookie cutters pay the bills in between larger custom builds. Regardless, the point I was trying to make is a metal roof is roughly 4 times the cost per foot than composite.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:58 am to shiftworker
Slate
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:54 am to shiftworker
I grew up in a house with a tin roof and it was awesome.
It was installed with Lead-head nails so every so often we had to silicon the nails heads or change them out with screws.
When I bought this house 7 years ago, the roof needed to be replaced and the existing owner was going to replace it but I told them to leave it because they were going with architect shingles.
I put a standing seam roof on it and I will never have another asphalt shingle on my house.
Yes I worry about hail but hail destroys asphalt shingles and unless the hails gets large, it bounces off your roof with no issue.
I will easily get 30 years and more out of this roof and it looks brand new every day.
Took a little time for my wife to adjust to the look and sound, which is different, but she ended up loving it.
It was installed with Lead-head nails so every so often we had to silicon the nails heads or change them out with screws.
When I bought this house 7 years ago, the roof needed to be replaced and the existing owner was going to replace it but I told them to leave it because they were going with architect shingles.
I put a standing seam roof on it and I will never have another asphalt shingle on my house.
Yes I worry about hail but hail destroys asphalt shingles and unless the hails gets large, it bounces off your roof with no issue.
I will easily get 30 years and more out of this roof and it looks brand new every day.
Took a little time for my wife to adjust to the look and sound, which is different, but she ended up loving it.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:58 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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When someone hits you at low speed and dents your car but your car still functions, what is the loss?
Touche
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:11 am to shiftworker
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Shingle or metal roof?
#1 Slate / Clay
Pro, lasts forever (my old house was build around 1900, no roof issues since
Con, expensive and hard to find workmanship in this day and age
#2 Copper
Pro, wears great and patina over time is beautiful
Con, $$$$
#3 Tin (seam roof)
Pro, wears great but needs proper maintenance
Con, cost and rapid deterioration if not maintained
#4 Concrete
Pro, cheaper than 1 - 3, but still expensive. Worked on a restoration in the 1980's where one was installed to look like cedar shake. Took a few years to age but now from the street it "weathered" and looks historic.
Con, limited availability and cost
#5 Metal / Steel
Not sure of advances in technology install
#6 Asphalt
Cheap but not an option the longer you want to live in that specific home
(most of the home in Hawaii burned to the ground when asphalt roofs caught fire and aerated to start fire next door over and over
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:19 am to N2cars
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Constant maintenance. Metal contracts and expands in the heat here leading to leaks. More difficult to insulate.
I got interlocking metal roof. Previous owner said it’s a 50 year old roof and probably going to last another 50. Haven’t done any maintenance since I bought it 5 years ago. Also, there is no need for insulation in the attic. I thought it was strange when I did the home inspection but here we are.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:30 am to cgrand
What do you do when the insurance company is busting your balls about an “old” metal roof? It’s like 20 years old and nothing wrong with it
Can I pay a roofer to come out and make it look like a new roof?
Can I pay a roofer to come out and make it look like a new roof?
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:48 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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You're paying insurance to make you whole in case of a loss (minus the deductible). If the hail damage causes a loss of value, then they should cover it.
Unless, hear me out, that's not in his policy. Some pay the extra money to get that type of coverage, some don't. Unfortunately, most don't realize they have a cosmetic exclusion until they file a claim and get denied.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:53 am to shiftworker
Standing seam metal roof.
The tin with the screws showing and the washers are no better than tha ashpalt.
The tin with the screws showing and the washers are no better than tha ashpalt.
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:06 am to trident
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screws showing and the washers are no better than tha ashpalt.
I've seen several roof with failed washers and thus small leaks. If caught quick enough, the leaks don't have time to rot the wood around the screw and the roof can just be re-screwed with new. But catching it just right is rare. A schedule of every decade of replacing the screws is probably not a bad idea.
Personally I would, and do, put the screws on the ridges so you aren't putting holes in the flats where all the water flows. Ridge screwing is a bit controversial and usually goes against the recs of the metal manufacture. But their warranty dgaf about failed washers.
Countries in south america and Australia are almost exclusively putting screws in the ridges if using exposed fastener roofing. Putting them in the flats will get you laughed at....much like putting them in the ridges will here. Metal roofs are extremely common in those countries so they have a lot of experience with them.
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