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re: Should I leave Ukraine?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:52 am to N2daWild
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:52 am to N2daWild
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Lets work through that conversation. Honey, I have decided to take the baby with me tomorrow. You don't even have a plane ticket for her. I'm going to take her anyway. Russia is not going to invade and my sister is coming here next month to see the baby. I'm taking her anyway, I don't care what you say.
You had plenty of time to have a conversation with your wife about this. You don’t need a plane ticket for a baby. I genuinely feel bad for you, but you had all of the necessary information to make an informed decision to get your child out of a potential war zone and you made a horrific decision.
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:59 am to jcaz
We can criticize my wife's decision all day long, but it doesn't help much. I don't agree with her decision either, still doesn't change much. My wife can 100% make her own decisions about her life, that is how our marriage works. As for the baby, to think I could just pry the baby from her arms and take her on the plane with no ticket is just not as simple as that sounds. My wife took the risk to bring that baby into this world, not me. My wife loves that baby very much. Taking the baby from her without her permission was never an option. How do you do that exactly? Should I just slap her around and take the baby by force? We did have that discussion and yes she is hard headed. My decision was about not getting on the plane or getting on it. Getting my family out was not an option.
My decision now, is to go back or stay here.
My decision now, is to go back or stay here.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:02 am to N2daWild
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My decision now, is to go back or stay here.
I’m sure your wife and child are safe. Biggest concern is supplies I assume. Russians won’t be coming in looking to rape and murder.
Sit tight and hope she sees the light or shite cools off.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:09 am to N2daWild
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My decision now, is to go back or stay here.
If everything you’re saying is true, you should probably just stay because it sounds like you’d just slow them down if shite actually went down. It doesn’t sound like she needs you there.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:13 am to N2daWild
Is she in a shelter in the area she is located in the east? I ask as CNN has been speaking to families who have sheltered in the subways (Kyiv I believe).
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:21 am to N2daWild
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Even now that the invasion has started, my wife still doesn't want to leave. I'm much more concerned than her.
I met my wife for the first time in Kiev, Dec, 2013. Two weeks later the revolt started in Ukraine. I went back in Jan. of 2014 and they were killing people in Kiev. After I left Kiev, I flew into Donetsk. That airport was bombed shortly after I left. Once I returned to the states, I could hear the bombs when I skyped her. Ukrainians are not as freaked about this as we are. I think the Ukrainians that should most be worried are in Kiev. They will fight back in Kiev and I don't think it will be pretty.
It's wild to think about as an American.
A good friend of ours married a woman he met while living in the middle east, and the situations are similar (they live in Jerusalem). They care for one another, sure, but the bond is much different from what you'd see between two westerners.
Their babies and her parents/extended family are her #1, and she'd rather her and the kids be home in Jerusalem 10/10 times over being here in the US with him. It is the most interesting thing, as a westerner who sees my partner as #1 over everything on the planet.
Your wife sounds very similar. The lack of fear/concern about what's going on right now.. being glad you're home keeping them from being questioned vs. you being there with the family.. etc. Not knocking it at all. Just a totally foreign reaction and way of handling things compared to how American couples would be in this situation.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:36 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:22 am to Sao
She is in the East and I actually don't expect much fighting around her. The military is about 30 miles away. I don't expect the citizens of East Ukraine to pick up arms either, unlike Kiev. They will break through the line, and roll right past Lisichansk, hopefully.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:22 am to StrongOffer
Now that multiple launch rocket systems, air to ground munitions, cruise missiles, naval guns, and artillery/mortar rounds are all coming into Ukraine in great numbers, you should remember the old adage about bullets having your name on them but bombs read 'to whomever it may concern.' I wish your family well.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:25 am to Kayakndan74
Stay and fight.
No way would I let a country come and take my shite.
Come to terms that today is a good day to die and stand up
No way would I let a country come and take my shite.
Come to terms that today is a good day to die and stand up
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:28 am to N2daWild
Why IVF? Can't ya'll make a baby the old fashioned way?
Oh, and prayers for your baby, your wife and her family!
Oh, and prayers for your baby, your wife and her family!
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:29 am to jcaz
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I’m sure your wife and child are safe.
Just curious, how have you determined this while sitting in Lafayette , La. ?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:31 am to Woodlands Tigah
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Why IVF? Can't ya'll make a baby the old fashioned way?
They probably just prefer spending the money on IVF for shits and giggles
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:38 am to OldmanBeasley
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You had plenty of time to have a conversation with your wife about this. You don’t need a plane ticket for a baby. I genuinely feel bad for you, but you had all of the necessary information to make an informed decision to get your child out of a potential war zone and you made a horrific decision.
Three weeks ago, the Ukrainian government website was telling tourist to come to Ukraine and that it was safe. No one in my wife's city thought they would invade. I knew it was a possibility and I had that conversation with my wife. Not surprisingly she thought it was nonsense. I was thinking if Putin was going to invade it would happen before I left, well it didn't. So now, here it is the night before I'm going to leave and I have to make a decision. It cost me $175 for the babies ticket to fly there, so you do need a ticket. Perhaps the airline would have let her sit on my lap but I didn't have the chance to ask. My wife was not willing to let me take the baby. The plan all along was for her to spend time with her sister and her new baby. Do you think my wife would agree to let me take the baby because Putin might invade when she didn't believe he would, nor anyone else in her family? Once again do you think I could just rip the baby from her arms and take her anyway because Putin might invade? My wife perhaps made a terrible decision but I'm not here to discuss that. This is like talking to a brick wall put taking my family out was never an option for me without beating my wife and stealing the baby. My only decision was to get on the plane or not.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:43 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:40 am to N2daWild
Come on you dont need a ticket or anything to fly a baby international. Just man up and sneak her in your carry on!
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:44 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:42 am to N2daWild
I truly wish you the best, but your marriage seems like a disaster.
ETA- I hope everything turns out fine for you and your family. It’s just difficult to wrap my head around some of the decisions you and your wife made. Just try and stay positive and hope for the best
ETA- I hope everything turns out fine for you and your family. It’s just difficult to wrap my head around some of the decisions you and your wife made. Just try and stay positive and hope for the best
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:46 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:43 am to BK Lounge
Trying to be an optimist for this guy who is likely losing his mind right now.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:45 am to Woodlands Tigah
I'm 53 and had a vasectomy. I did a reversal in Ukraine but the chances of having natural are very low and she is not getting younger. They froze my sperm when I did the surgery and we had a successful IVF in 2020 despite the low odds.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:46 am to CaptSpaulding
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It’s amazing that some things even have to be explained. As someone with young daughters I can’t imagine letting something like this happen and then just being like “LOL, women be shoppin’!!!”
I really didn’t want to confront the OP but I feel like it needs to be said because there is probably still time for him to make a difference.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:46 am to N2daWild
It appears that you have 2 kids with your wife. Are both kids with her? I pray that they stay safe. I know it is easy to look back and question yourself now, but no way I could have left my kids there.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:49 am to N2daWild
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I'm 53 and had a vasectomy. I did a reversal in Ukraine
Ok I’m starting to think this is a troll.
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