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re: Six West Point football players OD on spring break
Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:30 am to GeauxTigers0107
Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:30 am to GeauxTigers0107
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This video appears to debunk your assertion that you can't OD by simply being "around" fent.
I'm glad you linked to this video. The San Diego County Sheriff's Office actually had to backtrack on the initial report that the deputy collapsed due to fentanyl exposure.
From the updated story San Diego Union-Tribune
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Sheriff Bill Gore said Monday that the dramatic video his department publicized last week, intending to highlight the danger of fentanyl to law enforcement, was produced without any input from physicians.
Gore said he, not a doctor, concluded that Deputy David Faiive suffered an overdose from incidental contact with fentanyl in the July 3 incident featured in the video. It showed Faiive collapsing in a San Marcos parking lot after handling suspected narcotics found in a vehicle.
Medical professionals have pushed back, saying there is no evidence that incidental contact — drugs coming in contact with skin or through inhalation — with fentanyl can trigger an overdose. A couple hundred signed an online petition calling for retraction of the video and the news coverage that focused on it.
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According to the report, the deputy said he bent down to grab an evidence bag and his face came within 6 inches of where he had been testing the substance. His training officer told the deputy not to get too close, and when he stood up “he felt light-headed and fell down.”
The official report states the deputy had zero contact with fentanyl and came no closer than 6" from the drug. Without a toxicology report or a clinical diagnosis the deputy did not OD from fentanyl contact and most likely suffered a panic attack.
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:35 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Someone explain this to me like I’m 5. Why in the frick would a drug dealer lace his stash with something deadly? You’re not getting repeat customers if you keep fricking killing them. WTF? Are these people drug dealers or serial killers?
They aren’t intentionally killing people, they just aren’t very smart. They are cutting their product with fentanyl in an attempt to stretch it and make larger profits. Sometimes they makey a mistakey and end up with too much fentanyl in their product (miscalculations, tainted equipment, etc…).
Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:40 am to McVick
Cops are such drama queens
Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:54 am to WylieTiger
From the Summary of Findings section of the paper you linked to:
The study tested gloves from different manufacturers and materials to see if the gloves provided protection higher than accepted levels for chemotherapy. If anything the study found that the same nitrile gloves used in hospitals provide adequate protection for a variety of exposure risks also provide protection from fentanyl to a measurable amount in a controlled environment. It did not, and could not, account for illicit drugs with varying amounts of fentanyl that a first responder might encounter in the field.
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The test results are limited to fentanyl HCl and carfentanil HCl in deionized water and cannot be extrapolated to other fentanyl analogs, salts, or solutions. Further, this testing does not account for the possible effects of decontamination solutions that may
be used in conjunction with first responder tasks involving opioid exposures. Unlike the chemotherapy
drugs required in ASTM D6978-19, the concentration of synthetic opioids encountered in the field by first
responders is currently unknown and may be highly variable in part due to varying levels of purity and
concentrations in mixtures (Department of Justice 2018b) making it difficult to choose a challenge concentration during the glove testing. Moreover, synthetic opioids such as fentanyl and carfentanil are often found in mixtures with other drugs that are used illicitly (e.g., cocaine, heroin) (Drug Enforcement Administration 2018; Department of Justice 2018b) which may affect glove permeation and should be explored. The effect of glove field storage conditions should be evaluated to assess the effect of storage temperature and storage time on fentanyl/carfentanil permeation performance. Additional assessments should be undertaken to evaluate the impact of representative field conditions—e.g., additional fentanyl and carfentanil challenge concentrations, and the application of decontamination solutions on contaminated gloves.
The study tested gloves from different manufacturers and materials to see if the gloves provided protection higher than accepted levels for chemotherapy. If anything the study found that the same nitrile gloves used in hospitals provide adequate protection for a variety of exposure risks also provide protection from fentanyl to a measurable amount in a controlled environment. It did not, and could not, account for illicit drugs with varying amounts of fentanyl that a first responder might encounter in the field.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:59 am to Jim Rockford
I don't know much about the fentanyl game. Are people buying a product knowing it has fentanyl in it? Or is fentanyl used to cut the product and increase the high?
And do the cartels sell fentanyl or are is it being bought cheap from China?
Are the low level dealers getting product with it already in it or are they the ones adding it?
And do the cartels sell fentanyl or are is it being bought cheap from China?
Are the low level dealers getting product with it already in it or are they the ones adding it?
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:01 am to OweO
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I don't know much about the fentanyl game. Are people buying a product knowing it has fentanyl in it? Or is fentanyl used to cut the product and increase the high?
Mostly the latter, I think.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:06 am to Rebel
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Hunter Biden is posting on douchbagdroppings saying
quote: Where were these Spring Break parties when I was in the service?
He would not have had time, Hunter Biden served a total of about 4 hours in the Navy. He received his commission on a Thursday,, reported to a base the following Monday, took a required drug test and failed. Done, didn’t even serve a full day.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:09 am to EA6B
We used to be able to keep up with spring break because news outlets like Girls Gone Wild would actually cover it. Now all we get is stories about when bad stuff happens. We need more footage of the good stuff.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:09 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Why in the frick would a drug dealer lace his stash with something deadly?
They don’t lace coke with it intentionally.
They’re just stupid and they cut the coke on the same surface they used to cut heroin with fentanyl and fentanyl is so deadly it only takes a tiny amount to kill. It’s accidental contamination
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:13 am to TheHarahanian
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That’s got to be deadlier than rat poison.
Most commonly used rat poison is Warfarin a anticoagulant. It is given to humans under the name Coumadin as a blood thinner most commonly to people with atrial fibrillation to prevent strokes.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:21 am to deltaland
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They don’t lace coke with it intentionally. They’re just stupid and they cut the coke on the same surface they used to cut heroin with fentanyl and fentanyl is so deadly it only takes a tiny amount to kill. It’s accidental contamination
Not true. Many people prefer to take both drugs at the same time.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:21 am to ThatMakesSense
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Ain’t never heard of anyone ODing on weed. Roll a joint and relax.
How do you know your weed dealer isn't lacing it with fentanyl?
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:22 am to magicman534
I was given fentayl for my last surgery, Holy hell does that shite suck. Took me 3 days to get it fully out of my system. Not to mention it making me sick and weirdly emotional/stressed.
Just give me just some regular Ole morphine.
Just give me just some regular Ole morphine.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 11:23 am
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:30 am to GREENHEAD22
There is a culture problem in our academies. One cadet doing coke is concerning. Six colluding together to rent a house on leave, acquiring and doing coke together speaks to bigger problems in our officer ranks. Just in the last few years we've had large-scale academic cheating scandals, female cadets flashing black power salutes, and now this. Fish rot from the head down. Our military has a leadership problem.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:44 am to deltaland
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They’re just stupid and they cut the coke on the same surface they used to cut heroin with fentanyl and fentanyl is so deadly it only takes a tiny amount to kill. It’s accidental contamination
Is this a guess or do you know this for sure, because I would assume this isn't the case.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:47 am to SoFla Tideroller
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There is a culture problem in our academies. One cadet doing coke is concerning. Six colluding together to rent a house on leave, acquiring and doing coke together speaks to bigger problems in our officer ranks. Just in the last few years we've had large-scale academic cheating scandals, female cadets flashing black power salutes, and now this. Fish rot from the head down. Our military has a leadership problem.
You think this is a new problem? I am asking because I really don't know.. Or are we just able to hear about these things because of social media, etc.
I would think there are a lot of things that happen that the military would prefer doesn't go public and it used to be much easier to hide.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 12:23 pm to chryso
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How do you know your weed dealer isn't lacing it with fentanyl?
LOL
Posted on 3/12/22 at 12:25 pm to cgrand
What you gotta worry about with that weed being laced is the wet. When you get the munchies on that wet you eat people.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 3/12/22 at 12:35 pm to OweO
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And do the cartels sell fentanyl or are is it being bought cheap from China?
Yes.
You voted for this.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 12:38 pm to Jim Rockford
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Six West Point football players OD on spring break
What are “News stories we will never hear in the media because it might cast more shade on Biden’s open border policies”? For $800 Alex!
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