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Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:59 am to
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Its being studied all the time. What makes you think it isn’t?


I know autism is being studied all the time. But is there a study to see if Tylenol could be a contributing factor?

As to why I think it isn’t being studied, go back a page or two and you’ll see this…

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Again, I’m not saying Tylenol causes autism or that it should be pulled from the shelves. All I’m saying is there should be a study on the possible connection between Tylenol and autism.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 12:01 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:59 am to
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Their mothers took Tylenol?
I took Tylenol, if needed, during pregnancy

None of my children have special needs.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:00 pm to
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I don't understand your malfunction on this.



He's autistic.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Darth_Vader

You're spiraling, baw.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:00 pm to
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He's autistic.

It would actually make sense.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:01 pm to
Here's the full statement from the FDA to physicians:

quote:

In recent years, evidence has accumulated suggesting that the use of acetaminophen by pregnant
women may be associated with an increased risk of neurological conditions such as autism and
ADHD in children. Some studies have described that the risk may be most pronounced when
acetaminophen is taken chronically throughout pregnancy to childbirth. These concerns may be
magnified by the fact that a very young child’s liver may still be developing and thus a child’s
ability to metabolize the drug may be limited.

To be clear, while an association between acetaminophen and autism has been described in
many studies, a causal relationship has not been established and there are contrary studies in the
scientific literature. The association is an ongoing area of scientific debate and clinicians should
be aware of the issue in their clinical decision-making, especially given that most short-term
fevers in pregnant women and young children do not require medication.

In the spirit of patient safety and prudent medicine, clinicians should consider minimizing the use of acetaminophen during pregnancy for routine low-grade fevers. This consideration should
also be balanced with the fact that acetaminophen is the safest over-the-counter alternative in
pregnancy among all analgesics and antipyretics; aspirin and ibuprofen have well-documented
adverse impacts on the fetus.


That's entirely reasonable, but also very different than what was said in Trump's conference the other day
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:01 pm to
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All I’m saying is there should be a study on the possible connection between Tylenol and autism.


You're in luck. There are many.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:03 pm to
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You're spiraling, baw.


How so? Because I’m neither declaring Tylenol safe or dangerous and instead say there should be a scientific study?

That’s spiraling to you?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:04 pm to
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Again, I understand all that. I’m not saying Tylenol needs to be pulled from the shelves. What I am causing is the study that apparently has not happened needs to be happening now. It boggles my mind it hasn’t already been studied. If it had, this conversation would not even be happening now. We’d already know either Tylenol is safe for infants, or it’s not.


The problem at its core is there was dangerous language in the press conference the other day without good scientific basis. Particularly telling women to avoid it all together in pregnancy.

As others have stated, fever in pregnancy DOES have consequences:

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Having a fever during pregnancy—especially during your 1st trimester—may cause problems for your baby.

People who had a fever just before or during early pregnancy were more than twice as likely to have a baby with a neural tube defect (NTD) than those who didn’t have a fever. NTDs are birth defects of the brain, spine and spinal cord. According to the CDC, getting 400 micrograms of folic acid every day while pregnant can reduce the risk of neural tube defects, even if you have a fever.

A temperature higher than 103 F (39.4 C) during the 1st trimester also may increase the risk of:

Autism spectrum disorder (more research is needed in this area)
Cleft lip and cleft palate
Congenital heart defects
Miscarriage


March of Dimes website

Instead of strongly advising women to coordinate care with their doctors and casually saying things like "Don't take it" will have consequences unfortunately. It's why so many medical professional organizations have come out and said to go with your doctor's advice because it's a highly individualized situation.

You also run the risk of women turning to other pain relievers, like NSAIDs, that have much higher risks of issues for pregnancy mothers and their babies than Tylenol.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:04 pm to
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All I’m saying is there should be a study on the possible connection between Tylenol and autism.


There are. There was a meta study on 46 studies on just that linked already in this thread.



Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:05 pm to
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You're spiraling, baw.
while pregnant, I was told to only take Tylenol

One of my obgyns was the Dr RFK picked from BR
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:07 pm to
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Trumps insane rambling and declarative statements the other day made it one. For once it truly is his fault this became a shite show

This started months ago when they (RFK Jr. and Donald) painted themselves into a corner by telling the world that they would get to the bottom of and unveil the cause of autism to the world. They had to do something after that.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:11 pm to
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How so? Because I’m neither declaring Tylenol safe or dangerous and instead say there should be a scientific study?

That’s spiraling to you?


Roughly 2.5 million women and children studied in Sweden on Acetaminophen use - JAMA Network

Meta-analysis of 46 different studies on Acetaminophen use
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:13 pm to
Bro really though tylenol not studying it themselves meant that no one studied it at all
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:21 pm to
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All I’m saying is there should be a study on the possible connection between Tylenol and autism.


There are a lot of them already. Clearly there is a reason for so many studies, but the problem is that they can establish a link but not causation.

And color me skeptical, but when there's smoke, there's usually fire. There is almost nothing inherently "safe" for pregnant mothers to ingest other than food, and not even all of that...deli meat, soft cheese, alcohol, etc. We weren't allowed to take Advil or Aspirin, either.

So I wouldn't be shocked at all if this turns out to be a no-no for expectant mothers or babies/toddlers. I mean, there was a point that Johnson's baby powder and thalidomide were approved, as well.

And it could wind up being something as seemingly innocuous as the coating on the tablets or the dyes in the infant formula. I always thought it was weird that they make a "dye-free" version for toddlers. Why even sell the one with the dye if it isn't harmful?

We put alllll kinds of things into our bodies (in the name of "medicine") that are basically poisons, and our bodies really don't know how to process them. The pharmaceutical companies are the modern-day mob with the influence they have over Congress.

Posted by OweO
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:23 pm to
I was just trying to be offensive. I am sure mothers have been taking Tylenol while they were pregnant since it became an over the counter drug.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:23 pm to
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I’m gainfully employed. It isn’t the money, it’s the time and I don’t think about it. I go to the dentist and he says I look great.


You could have prostate cancer. There are also diseases that fly under the radar. But go ahead and do you. Just don't come back and post when it is determined that you have something incurable.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:24 pm to
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they can establish a link but not causation.

And color me skeptical, but when there's smoke, there's usually fire.
typically I'd agree but there are so many other potential factors common for mothers-to-be at this time, it's just way too gray
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:30 pm to
Correct, it is very gray.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:31 pm to
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I was just trying to be offensive
I caught that - there’s a little shite head kid that comes to the youth programs at my church and his mom blames artificial dyes for his shite headedness

So, either she sends or we get special foods for him (and a few others who are on that wagon) but guess what!!?! The kids are still shite heads.

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