- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Winter Olympics
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Tyreek Hill Arrest Footage Released
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:46 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:46 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Officers would be brain dead retards to let people keep their blacked out windows up during stops
Doesnt matter what they want. Its a lot safer for them to hold you at gunpoint during a stop but they arent legally allowed to do that.
Lawful or
not lawful
Asking Hill to roll down his window is an Unlawful order. Hill can tell the cop to kick rocks.
Again, there is a fix and its with our legislative body and courts. Cops cannot run around giving Unlawful orders. Well, they can, but they have to know the difference and cannot violate your rights.
Its a hard job if done properly and its dangerous. Freedom is scarey, deal with it.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 10:47 pm
3
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:46 pm to Lightbringer1
quote:
officer safety is a bullshite argument that people use as a way for cops to be able to do whatever they want and for citizens to just have to take it.
You're generalizing heavily here.
quote:
The job comes with risks and responsibilities.
Right, like getting shot at a traffic stop because you can't see the threat.
quote:
If you can’t handle them, don’t do the job.
"Roll the window down" is handling it.
quote:
But the risks don’t give you a free pass to violate my rights.
I fully agree that these cops were more aggressive than they needed to be, but the quasi-sovereign citizen nonsense unnecessarily escalates these situations. "your rights" aren't being infringed by keeping your window down so that the officer doesn't feel the need to be aggressive.
What is the point in doing intentionally escalatory things "because I can"? That is a child's answer.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:46 pm to Lightbringer1
quote:
The job comes with risks and responsibilities. If you can’t handle them, don’t do the job. But the risks don’t give you a free pass to violate my rights.
You’re an idiot.
Just because a job has risks, doesn’t mean you don’t do things to mitigate those risks.
Educate yourself on the actual law before you go all “I know my rights.”
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:47 pm to geauxturbo
quote:
Asking Hill to roll down his window is an Unlawful order.
No, it is not.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:47 pm to brass2mouth
quote:
“I know my rights.”
People who say this in interactions with the police almost certainly never do.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:47 pm to OMLandshark
I done muffins man call me some Ben Crumps
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:49 pm to geauxturbo
quote:This is simply 100% a lie
Asking Hill to roll down his window is an Unlawful order
It is 100% A LAWFUL ORDER IN FLORIDA
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:50 pm to OMLandshark
It really wasn't necessary to yank him out of the car and handcuff him before he had a chance to get out of the car. I don't see how you can spin it otherwise. He should've kept the window down and gotten it down sooner but it looks like he was more occupied trying to let his team know he was going to be late to the game.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:51 pm to lsupride87
quote:
This is simply 100% a lie
To my point earlier, people who say "I know my rights" almost never do.
If the cop has lawfully seized you (pulled you over), it is on you to comply with their reasonable requests/orders.
Aside from the legalities, the above is also true in the court of common sense.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:53 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
What is the point in doing intentionally escalatory things "because I can"? That is a child's answer.
Like I said earlier, Tyreke hill is a fricking moron. That’s really not a question. My point in general is that this was from what I understand, a speeding stop. You’re getting a ticket. The officer had the license in his hand. He can CHOOSE to just go write the ticket. He WANTS the window down.
His unprovoked fear of the driver leads him to give an order that doesn’t need to be given. And it certainly doesn’t need to be fought over so aggressively by a “professional” who is supposed to know how to deescalate.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:54 pm to rocksteady
quote:
ROFL. I will unload an entire clip in your face before I’m going down and not returning to my family for your constitutional right to be an a-hole and grab a gun behind your black out windows. Sorry fam, it was the man’s constitutional right to act like a trash can human child and there was NOThInG I could have done to prevent him from killing me
You are the very definition of the problem. You can ask, I dont have to comply. If you think you are justified in trampling the frick out of someones rights because bad guys exist, then you deserve neither safety nor freedom. Go live in North Korea.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:55 pm to Lightbringer1
quote:
He WANTS the window down.
You don't seem to fully comprehend why that is.
quote:
His unprovoked fear of the driver leads him to give an order that doesn’t need to be given.
More cops are shot at traffic stops or other "routine" interactions than in SWAT/TV show type scenarios
quote:
And it certainly doesn’t need to be fought over so aggressively by a “professional” who is supposed to know how to deescalate.
"Keep the window up" IS deescalating.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:57 pm to lsupride87
quote:
It is 100% A LAWFUL ORDER IN FLORIDA
Whats the law? Looks like a wikipedia screenshot. Curious, beacuse its not common and as I stated, that is the fix for the common problem.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:57 pm to lsupride87
quote:
At 26 seconds hill starts rolling his window up so the officer tells him to “keep it down”
The cop repeats “keep it down” two more times
30 seconds later at 56 seconds the door is opened by the officer
You claimed it took him 30 seconds to lower the window. Your own quote.
Do you not stand behind that now?
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:58 pm to Lightbringer1
quote:
They are abusing the law and their power just as much as Hill is.
No, they're not.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:00 pm to geauxturbo
You can't possibly be as dumb as your statements make you seem.
In fact, you seem so stupid that I would wager you have never been in law enforcement or any branch of the armed forces.
Am I right?
In fact, you seem so stupid that I would wager you have never been in law enforcement or any branch of the armed forces.
Am I right?
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:01 pm to OMLandshark
Shocker.. Tyreek is a POS ... He could easily have said " my bad officer ..I'm late for a game" and not be a complete douche and the whole situation would have been an easy traffic stop.. But this dip shite can't not be hood for even with all that money.. frickin pathetic.. The entitlement on display is nothing short of astounding...
Crazy that there are retards actually defending him after seeing the body cam footage... Dumb...just frickin dumb
Crazy that there are retards actually defending him after seeing the body cam footage... Dumb...just frickin dumb
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:02 pm to geauxturbo
quote:
Whats the law? Looks like a wikipedia screenshot. Curious, beacuse its not common and as I stated, that is the fix for the common problem.
Someone without blacked out windows may be able to get away with cracking their window or pressing their documents against the glass---thats still stupid and unnecessary, but potentially within your rights.
Blacked out windows does not allow communication with the officer, or allow the officer to determine whether a threat is present. You have to allow communication with the officer. Not just the fact that he can hear your voice either.
I'd be shocked if there is a specific code article in Florida for this scenario. The above is basic federal jurisprudence and general common sense.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:03 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
You don't seem to fully comprehend why that is.
Of course I do. It’s a dangerous job. You never know who’s got a gun pointed at you. In fact, I have a gun in MY truck.
But a police officer who goes into a situation EXPECTING to encounter violence is likely going to be more aggressive than they need to be. And that aggression is going to cause issues where issues don’t need to be encountered. If this cop doesn’t expect Hill to maybe be trying to kill him, he just writes the ticket, gives it to him and we all go about our day.
It’s not an easy job, physically, emotionally, or mentally. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. But the job can’t be to treat everyone as hostile without reason. Otherwise you are going to start seeing the enemy everywhere. And not long after that, regular everyday people ARE your enemy.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:05 pm to Lightbringer1
quote:
But the job can’t be to treat everyone as hostile without reason.
I didn't see hostility from the officers until the blacked out window was rolled up.
Page 13 of 37
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News