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re: What does Russia gain by taking Ukrain ?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:34 am to Fusaichi Pegasus
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:34 am to Fusaichi Pegasus
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What does Russia gain by taking Ukrain ?
An E maybe
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 1:15 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:34 am to kingbob
I agree with everything but
isn't happening without WWIII.
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Adding the Baltic States would give them even more energy, agriculture, several great ports, land access to Kaliningrad, and a thriving tech sector.
isn't happening without WWIII.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:35 am to go ta hell ole miss
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Putin wants all of the former Soviet Union back under one flag
No he doesnt. You are an extremely stupid person. USA made an agreement with the Soviet as it folded that NATO wouldnt pursue former Soviet countries and they would act as a buffer zone between western powers and Russia. Since then the Western bankster empires have reneged on their promises like 10x over. Now Russia is pushing back as crooked Biden and the EU try to pull Ukraine into its system. If you expected Russia who spends so much money on its army to just sit back and take it, well you are even more stupid than GTHOM.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:36 am to Fusaichi Pegasus
It’s a test for the eventually taking of Taiwan
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:37 am to TheFlyingTiger
Remember when the US, only two years ago could offset Europe's oil and gas needs because we were the largest producer in the world, totally energy independent, >$2/gallon gas, and we were a net exporter with capabilities to aid our allies in times like these with energy instead of approving Russian pipelines while blocking them in our own country?
Oh.... I member. But hey... mean tweets and all...
Oh.... I member. But hey... mean tweets and all...
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:37 am to El Segundo Guy
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isn't happening without WWIII.
It shouldn't, but treaties are only worth what their participants are willing to risk to enforce them. Poland, Germany, France, etc might decide that they cannot afford to mount an effective defense (due to the danger of losing access to food and fuel) and choose not to interfere. Russia is not looking for a straight up Russia vs NATO fight. He's picking off countries one by one hoping that each incursion won't be worth their while to oppose.
While I agree that it should be WWIII to attack the Baltic States, I am not sure that it actually would be. I think NATO is a paper tiger.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:38 am to TheFlyingTiger
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"He wants to bring back the USSR" is what the "experts" will tell you on tv. The same experts that push the wars, the pandemic response, etc
I haven't heard anyone say this but that was my initial thought. It's pretty obvious. He's almost 70. He's old school KGB Russian. He has a fragile ego and wants to be remembered like Stalin and Lenin. He's all about showing that Russia is powerful. It's not going to end with Ukraine and it's not going to end well altogether...
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:59 am to Jim Rockford
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I'm no fan of Biden, but
quote: Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday described Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as “genius” and “savvy,” praising his onetime counterpart for a move that has spurred sanctions and universal condemnation from the U.S. government and its trans-Atlantic allies. “I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”
Okay, and? If you look at what Trump did in his short 4 years in regards to neutering Russia (sanctions, American Energy independence, killing 200 Russians in Syria, blasting Germany for getting a majority of the natural gas from Russia, calling out NATO for most of their countries not contributing enough, SELLING WEAPONS TO UKRAINE, etc) and say he wasn’t tougher on Russia as old tapioca Joe (rolling back sanctions against Russia, making America not only less oil independent but to the point where we are now buying oil from Russia and in effect making Russia richer, stopped selling weapons to Ukraine) you’re a fricking idiot.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:08 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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You are an extremely stupid person.
Have we met or is it just your thing to call people you have never met “extremely stupid”? Putin knows the US won’t do anything to stop him. People like you are proof he is correct.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:12 am to go ta hell ole miss
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Putin knows the US won’t do anything to stop him. People like you are proof he is correct.
Extremely stupid response. You claimed Putin was going to take over the entire Soviet Block. And your proof to that is to say something only someone who is a clueless soccer mom reading facebook memes would respond with...
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Putin knows the US won’t do anything to stop him
Extremely stupid. Read more history and geopolitics and you wont sound like such a stupid fool in the future. Grow a brain from yourself, cut off mass state propaganda media.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:14 am to TheFlyingTiger
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"He wants to bring back the USSR" is what the "experts" will tell you on tv. The same experts that push the wars, the pandemic response, etc.
I literally have not heard a single person on TV say that. You just make stuff up to meet your agenda? Why let truth get in the way, right?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:15 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
Just read a Yahoo article that said we get about 9% of our oil from Russia now and I almost vomited.
We had 100% independence literally the day before current diaper-wearing we currently have president took office. That was like 13 months ago...
The commie who wrote the article also glossed over Trump's entire tenure of low oil prices and said there basically isn't anything a president can do about high gas costs...
Well, killing 40,000 energy jobs in your first month in office seems to kind of kill your country's effectiveness on that front now doesn't it?
We had 100% independence literally the day before current diaper-wearing we currently have president took office. That was like 13 months ago...
The commie who wrote the article also glossed over Trump's entire tenure of low oil prices and said there basically isn't anything a president can do about high gas costs...
Well, killing 40,000 energy jobs in your first month in office seems to kind of kill your country's effectiveness on that front now doesn't it?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:16 am to go ta hell ole miss
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I literally have not heard a single person on TV say that.
Is all you need to know about this idiot...
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:17 am to BlackPawnMartyr
I don’t watch media. You sound like a propaganda machine yourself. If you don’t agree with something someone says you just yell or use insults. In my experience people like that are incapable of making coherent arguments or sound reasoning. I doubt you are any different. Maybe you need to lay off the booze, man.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 1:20 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:19 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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Is all you need to know about this idiot..
That I don’t sit around watching TV and try to insult people I have never met. You are correct. Stay classy, man.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:20 am to go ta hell ole miss
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I literally have not heard a single person on TV say that
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I don’t watch media
This is GTHOM folks the biggest idiot on OT now.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:21 am to Jack Ruby
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We had 100% independence literally the day before current diaper-wearing we currently have president took office. That was like 13 months ago...
It’s only going to get worse, too. He’s made it virtually impossible to invest in future projects with fossil fuel. He is the worst domestic president since Carter. If not for Bush he would be the worst foreign policy president in our lifetime.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:28 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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the biggest idiot on OT now
Repeat the same insults when you nothing logical to add. You stay classy, Mr. Message board genius in your own mind. You are a rock star, hero. Have another one.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 1:29 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:30 am to go ta hell ole miss
Notice how he doesnt add anything to to bolster his suggestion that Russia is trying to bring back THE ENTIRE USSR SOVIET BLOCK. this is just some idiot who is repeating something he heard on CNN. He isnt responding to the NATO encroachment on former soviet countries breaking the promise, he doesnt bring any proof to his claim. He has no brain of his own. He is a complete fool for the mass media.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 1:32 am
Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:32 am to go ta hell ole miss
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If not for Bush he would be the worst foreign policy president in our lifetime.
Well, Slick did sell out our country to China to line his own pockets. That's pretty tough to beat on the old "worst foreign policy president" front.
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