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re: Why do poor people smoke, drink and do drugs

Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:20 am to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23088 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:20 am to
Family tradition son
Posted by GetEmTigers08
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2007
1241 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:22 am to
I think every comment on this is right in some way.

Truthfully, it's a lot of reasons related to, not only cause, but also effect of being poor. I grew up in a really poor county in Mississippi, and it was basically the way of life. I remember growing up and asking my mom why so many people "drank"(you could probably include drugs), and she said for a lot of people it was all they had ever known and because there was nothing better to do. For these people, poverty was all they knew and was considered the norm, they usually had no aspirations to move from that, and any one median or higher was considered rich.

It's really so many factors a lot of times that it's impossible to pin down to one area. My dad was adopted and raised in wealth and excess, and for me one of the most intuitively intelligent persons I have ever known. So it made no sense to see someone with his intelligence and upbringing fall apart the last ten years. Went from lab chemist to jobless and homeless, but the alcohol remained constant and ultimately did him in. It's a shitty situation and even worse when you do everything you can to help that person but it doesn't make a difference for them in the end. Life is hard on everyone in their own little way, and we all have ways of coping.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 9:24 am
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15776 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:23 am to
"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."

RIP Mitch
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34904 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:26 am to
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15776 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:30 am to
quote:

72% of smokers are poor


My brother-in-law and his dad have a VERY successful business and both chainsmoke, even in their offices. I'll never understand it but maybe it's because of the people they have to deal with.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74245 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:31 am to
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Smoke
Drink
Do Drugs
Have Tattoos
Have iPhones


one of these is not like the other.

People drink at all levels of social class dumbass.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4745 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:32 am to
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This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 8:43 am
Posted by Tigerdad2001
Watson
Member since Sep 2013
979 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:32 am to
Maybe they're smarter than you? Follow the rules, be healthy, blah blah blah (You're gonna die either way). Enjoy life and do what you want while you're here or do everything right/safe and die with regrets!
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5498 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:33 am to
Because snow skiing at Solden has become too chique and it's getting overcrowded.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34904 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:34 am to
quote:

My brother-in-law and his dad have a VERY successful business and both chainsmoke,


72% =/= 100%
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15776 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:35 am to
quote:

72% =/= 100%


No shite, Sherlock. I realize they are in the 28%. I was just stating I don't understand why they smoke.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85739 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Maybe it's because you missed mine?


The point where you said genetics plays zero part in the choices people make?

No, I didn't miss that.

quote:

You've rebutted nothing I've said, perhaps it's because you're referencing my "racism" comparison as being real rather than sarcastic?



No. I laughed that off as nonsense. I never referenced it again.

quote:

What part of showing up to the box factory every day, working hard, don't spend more than you bring in is difficult? Where's the genetic failure in that? It isn't genetics, it's work ethic. We're not talking about being wealthy. We're talking about not being poor.


Low IQ people make poor decisions. "Working hard" is a decision. Not spending more money than you make is a decision. These decisions are driven by variables that are generally beyond our control.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59623 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:39 am to
quote:

People drink at all levels of social class dumbass.
people of all social classes do drugs & have iPhones too
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74245 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:40 am to
So you are advocating that genetics plays a part in decision making?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85739 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:41 am to
quote:

So you are advocating that genetics plays a part in decision making?


Yes.

Thought that was obvious.

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74245 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:43 am to
ohh man.

this is a new one for the "I can blame someone else for my problems" group. It's my grandfather's fault i spend all my money on drugs.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85739 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:44 am to
quote:

this is a new one for the "I can blame someone else for my problems" group. It's my grandfather's fault i spend all my money on drugs.


:sigh:

What a dumb argument to ignore the obvious.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:45 am to
Food Stamps and Medicaid cover the main expenses.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34904 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:47 am to
quote:

quote:

People drink at all levels of social class dumbass.


people of all social classes do drugs & have iPhones too


The issue is that higher class people can afford it. It appears the OP's point was that poor people are wasting their limited income on wasteful items, than can also further cause them problems with employment, health, law enforcement, etc.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35648 posts
Posted on 6/22/18 at 9:48 am to
quote:

, generally speaking, that's a BS excuse. Genetics has NOTHING to do with it. That sounds like a racist remark to me. You saying that more blacks tend to be poor because of their race? 



He didn't bring up race.


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